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#21 Foster

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 10:40 AM

wow! hey waylitjim, that is about as easy as it gets! great thread and tek! With a little more current experience I just might give ere a go. Truly Sweet! peace pFost

#22 spacecake

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 02:04 PM

Nice tread ,..Waylitjim !

I was just thinking what to do in my summer vacation...!

Now I'm thinking of getting my Subaeruginosa print out of the closet and give your L.C. a try !
Or maybe a Azure..but I don't have a print jet....
...O wait can try a Pan culture clone !
We will see ! (so much to do..so little time...)

#23 golly

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Posted 07 August 2006 - 03:50 PM

While that does occur in nature , It's a reeeeall long shot ...So pretty much no it would not work dependably....
Grain spawn or flour mixed with wood chips is the deal...

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Posted 07 August 2006 - 06:37 PM

Ok, got some popcorn soaking.
I will look for other woodchips tomorow.
Another question if I may:
Would adding poo to wood be any good for them or should it be just wood?
If so, what ratio?

#25 waylitjim

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Posted 07 August 2006 - 06:54 PM

Manure will not help. If you're looking for a supplement try adding rye grass seed or bran to the woodchips. Oat, wheat, and rice bran in small amounts will boost your colonization times. 1-2 Tbsp per qt jar of woodchips is enough. Keep in mind, bran contaminates easily, so you'd need to pressure cook the chips and bran. I personally use rye grass seed and a nutritious cacuts soil with my wood chips.

#26 waylitjim

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Posted 22 August 2006 - 07:23 PM

Here's some pics to demonstrate another way of using the wood lover liquid culture.

Once the L.C has grown out, prepare some quart jars containing the final fruiting substrate.

This process skips using grains which need to be spawned to the woodchips at a later date. This will save time since it skips a step.

Basically we're injecting 6 ccs of azurescens liquid culture into each quart jars containing the final fruiting substrate.

These are the ingredients:

> 80% Alder Chips (screened in a colander to keep out larger pieces of wood)
> 15% Cactus Soil
> 5% Rye Grass Seed

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> Cactus Soil (composed forest products, peat moss, sand, earthworm castings, bone meal, blood meal, cottonseed meal, and alfalfa meal.) This nutritious mix will fully colonize.

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> Rye Grass Seed Used to boost colonization times.

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These ingredients were mixed together, moistened with water, and pressure cooked for 1 hour.

After they cooled the jars were inoculated with 6ccs of L.C. These jars are now 4 weeks old and are showing some nice healthy growth. The next step will be transferring the jars to a tub for fruiting.

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#27 Lazlo

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Posted 22 August 2006 - 07:39 PM

archive material (lc's and exotics)

I can't believe this one slipped by.

#28 waylitjim

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Posted 22 August 2006 - 11:13 PM

Here's a look inside the jars after removing the lids.

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And after dumping the jars into a tub lined with corrugated cardboard.

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#29 Lazlo

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 11:48 AM

Are you going to fruit the tub outside or inside? With the lid on or off?

#30 waylitjim

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 03:14 PM

I'll fruit the tub outdoors this Fall, with the lid on. (which is clear and lets light in.)

It's the exact same tub I used in my Psilocybe cyanescens grow last season.
http://mycotopia.net...read.php?t=6290

Looking forward to more azures, I find them so enticing. :D

#31 Hippie3

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 06:01 PM

try a few jars invitro just to see
plz
invitro azures would be
phenomenal eh ?

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 06:37 PM

where can you find bags of alder chips like that. i cant find them at any greenhouses or nursuries. it says smoking. walmart have them with the grills or something?

#33 waylitjim

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 07:12 PM

invitro azures would be
phenomenal eh ?


Sure would Hip, I'll give it a try.
This vase from Loki is the closest I've seen.

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#34 Hippie3

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 08:49 PM

yeah, pretty close
but not quite the same as your spawn jars

#35 waylitjim

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Posted 28 August 2006 - 02:12 PM

I think I'll try fruiting azures and cyans in a mycobag this Fall.

I've never seen this done before, but I'm sure it's possible.

Fruiting in a tub works great, a mycobag with filter patch shouldn't be much different.

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Posted 28 August 2006 - 02:31 PM

Would be nice to see some results from that experiment Wajlitjim !

I'm working an some Subaeruginosa at this time !
And hopefully there is some Azure liquid one my way,so I can make a nice post aboud the two of them !

Can't wait to see the final ''product'' of your experiment !!! :cool:

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Posted 28 August 2006 - 04:30 PM

The colonized jars were dumped into a tub lined with corrugated cardboard.


thats it? no spawning to additional substrate? no casing? Just a layer of colonized woodchips in a bin (on corregated paperboard)

I have been using your woodlover teks as guide while experiementing with a few edibles. I followed the one you put up for an outdoor bed and essentially made an outdoor bed in a tub (spawned Reishi WBS to sawdust, woodchips and bran) and put a layer of organic soil over it to case it. Not sure what to do with it now though - incubate or place in fruiting conditions. Right now it is in my garage with a sheet of tyvek as a cover. The soil itself is about 5% colonized. I have several quarts of WBS colonizing with shiitake so I am torn between just doing g2wc(grain to woodchip) and spreading the colonized chips in a tub like this and using the WBS to spawn to the chip/sawdust/bran mix like I did with Reishi. If this works just as well, it is certainly easier.

#38 waylitjim

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Posted 28 August 2006 - 05:14 PM

thats it? no casing?


This tub was recently cased with un-pasteurized cactus soil. The nutrients in the casing layer invite the mycelium to the surface where it can get the light needed to initiate pinning. Once the correct temperature is achieved fruiting can begin.

In November, this tub will move outside and weekly waterings will begin. The increase in moisture mimics the heavy Fall rains, and the drop in temperature should promote fruiting. In my neck of the woods, temperate woodlovers start fruiting in November, and continue thru January.

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#39 mason420

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Posted 28 August 2006 - 06:55 PM

One more question, are there drainage holes in the bottom of your tubs?

#40 waylitjim

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Posted 28 August 2006 - 07:04 PM

Yes, I put drill a hole in the bottom corner. After I water, I tilt the tub to let the excess water drain out. The cardboard on the bottom also helps to absorb water.
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