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#41 waylitjim

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Posted 29 August 2006 - 01:43 PM

Once your tubs are fully colonized:

-You can use them as spawn for an outdoor bed (as shown above)

-or you can fruit woodlovers in the tub. (a double tub works great)

Psilocybe cyanescens:

http://mycotopia.net...86&d=1156876542

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#42 spacecake

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Posted 29 August 2006 - 02:05 PM

:eusa_droo :eusa_droo :eusa_droo..... :loveeyes:

Good thread... Waylitjim !

So you can buy alder chips at your place !
Wish I could,..having a hard time getting chips now !

I have a little bit hardwood that I got from a fisherman,but is not fresh,they are pieces of some hardwood floors ! But it is nice to try something that doesn't look good, but may work !

So now it's waiting time ,..Oktober is still far away ! ;)

#43 golly

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Posted 29 August 2006 - 03:46 PM

A most excellent presentation Waylit ..Thankyou...

#44 mason420

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Posted 29 August 2006 - 04:00 PM

Where do you get those big bags of alder chips? I am having no luck finding them around here. I have searched but the best i can find are little tiny bags of hickory. I don't live in the 'BBQ belt' (i.e. texas).

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Posted 29 August 2006 - 04:13 PM

You can buy the alder chips on the internet form Barbecue companies that sell aromatic grilling supplements. Also check out local sports and hunting stores they usually have a grilling section with bags of alder chips for smoking.

Great thread and tek Jim I will definetly be revisiting this. One question though; do you soak the woodchips for the outdoor bed in bleach as well?

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Posted 29 August 2006 - 04:19 PM

do you soak the woodchips for the outdoor bed in bleach as well?

For the outdoor bed I don't bother with a bleach soak. It probably wouldn't hurt, but I try to keep things natural. In a way, I attempt to mimic the conditions you'll find woodlovers in nature. A mixture of unsterile soil, woodchips, sand, leaves, twigs, rhododendrons etc.

Some of my tubs have worms, and little mites but I see no point in fighting them.
If the mushrooms are happy, I'm happy. :)

Where do you get those big bags of alder chips?

I was lucky enough to find a place locally where I could buy 50 lb bags.
Here's a place online which sells 20 lb bags of alder for $22.75.
http://www.justsmoke...n.com/Alder.htm

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Posted 04 September 2006 - 05:52 PM

The nutrients in the casing layer invite the mycelium to the surface where it can get the light needed to initiate pinning. Once the correct temperature is achieved fruiting can begin.


so here you want some nutes in the casing eh ?
interesting.

#48 waylitjim

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Posted 04 September 2006 - 09:27 PM

so here you want some nutes in the casing eh ?
interesting.


It's of my opinion that woodlovers such as P. azurescens benefit from certain microorganisms and beneficial bacteria to induce fruiting. I feel that there's some type of symbiosis taking place between the mycelium and the beneficial bacteria generated from decaying matter. Most fungi need nitrogen to develop. This is very abundant in the atmosphere, though in a different configuration than what the mushrooms need to mature. The bacteria consume organic matter, plant litter, and simple carbon compounds. They release the nutrients in these substances for use by living plants or fungi. Bacteria are particularly important in nitrogen cycling. Free-living bacteria fix atmospheric nitrogen, adding it to the soil nitrogen pool. It is then available to both the host and other plants in the near vicinity. Some soil nitrogen is unusable until bacteria convert it to forms that can be easily assimilated. I've had much better success fruiting woodloving Psilocybes with the addition of an unpasteurized casing layer. I use a nutritious unsterile soil for my casing layer and also in my wood chip spawn. In the average soil mix, 5% or more of the soils bacterial population is comprised of actinomycetes. On top of the casing layer, grass seed is planted. This combination is very similar to the natural conditions you'll find azurescens fruiting in nature.

Actinomycetes are organisms related to both fungi and bacteria. They tend to grow slowly as branching filaments, resembling fungi, as their filamentous growth forms mycelial colonies. In the past they have been classified with fungi, they are now commonly grouped with bacteria since they have no nuclear membrane.

Pinning may not be directly related to the presence of acti's, but they may serve a more indirect purpose. By raising the nitrogen levels of the soil, they create a very desirable environment for primordia formation, as well as a rich source of energy. I believe the weather sends the signal that it's time to start fruiting, but the azures may not fruit unless the nitrogen levels are high enough.

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 08:57 AM

archive material (lc's and exotics)
I can't believe this one slipped by.


totally lazlo.he is the woodlover master..:bow:
excellent tek...this place gets better and better every day..:D
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