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#1 sandman

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Posted 17 October 2006 - 01:18 PM

This is a hybrid method of smegs bucket soak tek and the "another wbs method" no soak tek that is intended for making filter patch bags instead of jars.

I use a 5 gal bucket to soak the WBS with hot tap water for about 1-2 hours. Timing here is not crucial but dont let it soak for more than 3 hours. After this quick soak, we use a bucket lid with lots of holes drilled throughout and a peice of window screen mesh to strain the bucket by turning upside down. Make sure the lid is on good. I use a hammer to secure the lid.

After dumping the soak water out, fill the bucket back up with water and repeat until the water that comes out is relatively clear. Usually takes about 4-5 rinses. After it comes out clear, leave the bucket upside down for a good hour.

OK now your WBS is good and ready to be bagged. We use 12 level cups of the quick soaked wbs to each filter patch bag. Then we add 1.75 level cups of water to the bag. Give the bag a good jigglin' to get it nice and level and pretty.

Straighten out the sides, and fold them in and push all the air out of the bag. Use a peice of PROFESSIONAL QUALITY masking tape to seal the bag up with all the air pushed out. You may need 2 peices of tape to get a good even seal on the bag.

Roll the top of the bag up to where the patch is protected on the inside. You can clip if you like but I dont.

Make sure that your protect the sides of the pc from touching the bags especialy on the lower level and bottom of the pc where it gets hotter. I use a few dishrags here. It is also a good idea to seperate the bags with rings from qt jars that you will never use again! This allows a little more passage of the pressure and whatnot.

Add proper ammount of water to the PC, add your bags and PC for 2hrs @ 15psi. You MUST mix the bags thoroughly before they cool or they will clump and gum up and fail miserably. What we do is hang the bags from the tops off a shelf or something. This reinflates tha bag and allows for easy mixing

Innoculate via any method of your choice. I like g2g and LC innoculations personaly.

You will find this tek to be hard to mess up. Give it a try! Lots of pics below.

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Posted 17 October 2006 - 01:20 PM

Nice writeup and great pics! :thumbup: :kewl: Thanks!

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Posted 17 October 2006 - 01:21 PM

Here we have some results

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Posted 17 October 2006 - 01:22 PM

Nice write up! Do you inoculate througha port or do you open the bags completel? I know you ppen them to do g2g. Do you use a gb?

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Posted 17 October 2006 - 01:25 PM

I dont got all high tek with a flowhood, but a glovebox would be fine. I wipe the bag with alcohol and then inject through the bag and retape with clear scotch tape.. Or you could get the bags with a self healing injector port but they are a little higher.

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Posted 17 October 2006 - 02:58 PM

So the extent of your sealing is the masking tape? Done prior to PCing? And these are standard inexpensive bags like available at sporeworks?

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Posted 17 October 2006 - 04:53 PM

Yes I seal with professional quality masking tape before PCing. These bags are the large filter patch bags from sporeworks.

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Posted 17 October 2006 - 05:26 PM

nice tek
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Posted 17 October 2006 - 09:04 PM

Thanks hip. The more pics for people to look at the better. i personaly thought the amount of info currently in the archives about bag preperation was a little bit lacking in variables. The quick soak works super. I am getting 100% success with this method. Only contams that come up are from mistakes related to innoculation.

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Posted 17 October 2006 - 10:19 PM

Okay, neat! So how does the gas get out? I mean, what would be the difference btwn your way and sealing using an impulse sealer or food saver? Don't most teks say to wait to seal your bags until after cooking? I know Bluehelix does as well as Workman and others. Also, Sporeworks sells a specific "presealable" bag. So whats going on in this (apparently completely awesome) tek that allows you to seal them with tape prior to cooking?

Also, have you tried mixing some bulk in with your wbs? A 50/50 mix works wonders for preventing the caking/clumping, keeping moisture, having texture and creating an awesome fruit.

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Posted 17 October 2006 - 10:31 PM

Beautiful. Exaxctly the information I've been looking for to do my own bags.

Thanks for all the help.

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Posted 17 October 2006 - 10:56 PM

The gas escapes through the filter patch. They are the presealable bags from sporeworks. If your bags are not presealable then you will need to roll and pin the bag while pcing then you could tape it/impulse seeal it after. I would just get the presealable ones. its easy~!

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Posted 17 October 2006 - 11:02 PM

Ahhh, okay. That would be one of the important details of this tek!

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Posted 18 October 2006 - 12:53 AM

Nice sandbag! I was looking at those pre-sealable bags. They look nice. Great writeup by the way.

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Posted 18 October 2006 - 02:32 AM

Nice for a making a large quantity of spawn. Whats your average time to 100% colonization with those sandman?

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Posted 18 October 2006 - 03:36 PM

Colonization time (pedestrian) are about 8-12 days with LC and 6-10 with G2G. I havent started them from multispore but I would guess about 14-20 days multispore.

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Posted 20 October 2006 - 12:17 PM

is this worthy of remembering forever?

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Posted 20 October 2006 - 08:22 PM

could one wrap the whole bag in a towel in the PC to protect sides & bottom? or would wrapping in a towel cause it not to be properly sterilized?

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Posted 20 October 2006 - 08:38 PM

the off-topic posts have been removed
to a separate thread
and irrelevant comments edited out as well.
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Posted 20 October 2006 - 11:11 PM

could one wrap the whole bag in a towel in the PC to protect sides & bottom? or would wrapping in a towel cause it not to be properly sterilized?
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can i quote myself? i think your great pics say it all. they were not all up the first time i viewed this thread--now its perfectly clear.




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