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#1 Guest_Water_*

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 08:28 PM

I've read up on this part of 'casing' and have seen different information about the casing layer.

One place said you can use a thin layer of the same 50/50 poo/straw you may have used to mix the myc with (which is exactly what I mixed my myc with). Another place said it should be a thin layer of coco coir. And yet another place said it should be a layer of something mushrooms won't grow onto, but through, like vermiculite.

What should I use for my casing layer? Any help is appreciated.

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 08:35 PM

I use a mix of 50% vermi and 50% coco coir, or pine cones powder. Add something to correct the pH also.

I dont think using the straw/poo is a good idea, it certanly improove the chances of getting a contamination in the layer.

50/50 vermi/coco coir is fine.

But if you dont have the coir there are other substitutes.

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 08:39 PM

Wouldnt Pine cone powder throw off the Ph balance?

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 08:43 PM

Wouldnt Pine cone powder throw off the Ph balance?


Sorry, i did not understood what you meaned with "throw off".

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 08:45 PM

Vermiculite, coco coir, and peat moss are all fine choices for a casing layer.
You can use just one of them, or a mixture. It's up to you, there is no best one.

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 08:45 PM

if you dont have the coir there are other substitutes.


Can you tell me some substitutes because I'm having trouble finding coir locally and can't wait to get it online.

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 08:48 PM

Sorry, i did not understood what you meaned with "throw off".


I was under the impression that the casing layer couldnt be very acidic.

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 08:52 PM

No. cone powder is fine, i have sucess using it even without pH balancers.

But a pH correction is always fine.

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 08:53 PM

yeah vermiculite as Waylit says,

or you can order casing from www.mycrotopia.com

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 08:53 PM

cool thanks for the info. Where would one obtain some of this powder?

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 08:54 PM

So medium grade verm right?

Oh yeah, and what about pH correction?

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 08:55 PM

yeap

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 08:56 PM

Here in Brazil i found it in garden shops. But not everywhere.

I guess you can do your onw if dont find anything alike.

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 10:19 AM

pH is only really important with a Peat Moss casing.

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 05:38 PM

Ok, all I could find locally is 'sphagnum peat moss', will that be ok for a casing layer on 50/50 poo/straw?

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 06:54 PM

Peat Moss works really well. Just add some hydrated lime to balance pH and try to remove any big sticks/bark (big chunks of wood are an invite for the green nasties).

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 07:25 PM

Jiffy Mix even makes a decent casing material

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Posted 24 October 2006 - 09:40 AM

Peat Moss works really well. Just add some hydrated lime to balance pH.


I bought some sunniland calcitic & dolomite lime blend, will that be ok?

Also, do I mix the lime with the peat moss before I add it to the casing, and what's the lime to peat moss ratio?

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Posted 24 October 2006 - 10:03 AM

see http://mycotopia.net...ead.php?t=15156

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Posted 24 October 2006 - 05:35 PM

Damn.. looks like dolomitic lime burns mycelium.

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