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#1 Leary's Ghost

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Posted 29 October 2006 - 01:38 AM

when i decided to try to graduate myself from cakes to grain spawn, i read a few teks that seemed to suggest that millet is the preferred grain for spawn
for example http://mycotopia.net...php?folderid=-1
WBS seems to be widely used also by alot of the experienced members here.

so, what are the pro's & cons?

i have been using millet and it seems to work fine i guess. every time i walk past a bag of WBS i think about trying it.

one thing is that the millet i have been using is for human consumption. i get it at a healthfood store. i think it is "hulled" so when i cook it, its like cooked rice--soft. when i look close at a bag of WBS i think i see millet in there with the hull still on. is that what i am supposed to be using? or is my cooked-rice-like millet ok? i will even nibble on it myself while i am working with it. it smells so good and dosnt taste bad.

so, is WBS preferred? am i using the wrong millet?

thanks.

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Posted 29 October 2006 - 09:10 AM

millet IS wild bird seed,
or at least it's a primary ingredient,
the better quality wbs = more millet content
now if you're making the hull-removed variety work
that's impressive as one would suppose that
millet still in its shell would do a bit 'better'
but i believe in the adage
'if it ain't broke then don't try to fix it'
so unless/until the hull-less variety causes you trouble
might as well use it.
grocery store wbs is likely a bit cheaper
but the difference is not huge for most of us.

#3 Leary's Ghost

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Posted 29 October 2006 - 01:40 PM

thanks hip.
i guess the only complaint anyone might have is that its soft and a little sticky after cooking, kinda like rice. i have found that if i chill it--i usually put it in a metel bowl floating in the sink in ice water--then it breaks up into individual, super hydrated grains. after PC, they will break up again w/ a vigorous shake.

i thought maybe the variety in the WBS was somehow a plus?

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Posted 29 October 2006 - 02:05 PM

some people only use grains that are intended for human consumption
because it would be less likely for them to contain contams

#5 Hippie3

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Posted 29 October 2006 - 02:06 PM

i thought maybe the variety in the WBS was somehow a plus?

not really, imo. most of the others ingredients are inferior to millet

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Posted 29 October 2006 - 03:04 PM

my friend just started playing with WBS and from what hes seen, the 'higher quality' aka tad more expensive kinds with more white millet and no corn seem to work better. much less of that sticky goopy muck left over after hydrating it.

and deffinatly stay away from the kinds with additives and fungisides and vitimin coatings and whatnot.

#7 Leary's Ghost

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Posted 29 October 2006 - 04:54 PM

maybe the attraction to WBS is that its cheaper by the lb? straight millet sounds superior to WBS. WBS sounds like a cheap way to obtain millet, but you got alot of other crap mixed in.

i can report that i have yet to have a contam w/ the healthfood store millet i am using during incubation. ive had it contam from open air spawning though.

i wonder if i am over-cooking it? the grains are all soft like cooked rice. should they be harder little seeds after cooking?

#8 Leary's Ghost

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Posted 30 October 2006 - 01:48 AM

BTW i checked my store and it is hulled millet. 99cents/lb in bulk.

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 04:14 PM

As I said before in another thread...
Make sure you drain .. drain and drain the wbs even more.

Some people suggest at least letting it drip dry in a strainer for 24 hours before jaring the wbs.

They also rinse the wbs right away then simmer it for 30-45 minutes before any millet starts to break open. Then cold rinse it and leave it to drain drain and drain some more.

I also personaly pc my wbs at least 75 min verses the normal 60 min most people do.

Happy Trails Too You!

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 04:39 PM

Ghost I have found that a 50/50 mix of wbs and popcorn is the way to go...

#11 Hippie3

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 05:00 PM

yep
50/50 brf -pcorn in bags makes good spawn too.

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 06:51 PM

BTW i checked my store and it is hulled millet. 99cents/lb in bulk.


Hulled millet does not make good spawn. :lol:

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 09:06 PM

Hulled millet does not make good spawn. :lol:


why not? :D




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