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[Hippie3]

i heard that mushrooms are mainly made of niacin

huh? i don't think so-
where did you hear that ?

[spacecake]

They are made out of the same stuff that sea-shells are made off... !
However..I don't now the name..?!

[golly]

Pretty sure they're slugs n' snails and puppy dog tails...
And yes that was a minor F#*k up ,,but at least i'll have 2 generations of potential consentrates for the next round...

[wtoad]

Snail shells are made of calcium carbonate with a protective chitin coating, no?

Chitin is thicker on land and freshwater snails, calcium carbonate primarily thicker on saltwater snails.

Just being nit picky...and bored.

http://dictionary.re...racum&x=52&y=12

Chitin is like cellulose which I assume is similar to the stuff mushrooms are made of?

(Its the stuff dreams are made of...)

[golly]

So the second generation of stembutt shrooms was just harvested ,
These should provide a more difinitive answer to the question of consentrating the primary elements that effect potency...

The last batch were quite strong , so if these are stronger still ,then
there would be good reason to believe that potency can be modified by
using the right substrate nutrients [recycled shroomage]

Will test em next weekend....

[cheshire]

you so hectic golly :heart:

[golly]

The second test proved well...A single gram produced a very nice/strong buzz with light visuals for a full 5 hours...So this is encouraging,,,Next week i will take a similar dose of normal GT's for comparison ,then back again with the "enhanced" boomers..

So eventually a more accurate assessment can be realized..
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Many folks end up growing more shrooms than they can use and this could be a great way to make use of em - by recycling...

Will update as more tests play out...

[golly]

Thnx Water,,,Well i sampled a gram of the control group and the effect was half that of the stembut grown shrooms ,quite dramatic actually..
going to re-dose on the control group once more...

Also going to begin the same experiment with South Americans,,If the results are similar, then i will be convinced of the benefits from recycling the goods...
My theory is - that even though the triptamine molecules are proly broken down completely , the basic elements for reconstruction remain
in generous proportions...

[BuckarooBanzai]

Very cool stuff, man. Interesting implications.

I await further results most anxiously!

[Cthulhu's Tentacle]

Cool experiment.

I like the pics, too. "Night of the Living Dead Mushroom!"

GRAAAAAAAINNS!!!!

[golly]

Yes ..i did re-dose on the control group and they were slightly stronger than the previous ones , but still not as strong as the stembutt grown specimens.

The next generation is underway and should be ready in a couple o weeks..

That should provide the defining evidence for increasing the potency of shrooms by recycling the leftovers..That is , if i get similar results..

Not ready to make any claims yet....:)

[Bio_DUD]

I don't quite understand what you are doing... Are you growing out the mycelia from the stem butts like Stamets suggests in The Mushroom cultivator or are you growing more mushrooms on "composted" or killed butts? (are you adding them as an ingredient to substrate or are you continuing the generation?)
I'm just wondering if there is any risk of senesce? and weakening of potency?

Just throwing that out there... I understand that I am ignorant...

[cosmicaug]

Snail shells are made of calcium carbonate with a protective chitin coating, no?

Chitin is thicker on land and freshwater snails, calcium carbonate primarily thicker on saltwater snails.

Just being nit picky...and bored.

http://dictionary.re...racum&x=52&y=12

Chitin is like cellulose which I assume is similar to the stuff mushrooms are made of?

(Its the stuff dreams are made of...)

Apparently some mollusk parts are made of chitin (which is something that I did not know) but it is not usually found in the shells (which are made of a proteins, such as conchiolin, which become mineralized) Rather it is usually found in radulas and in the beaks of cephalopods. If you want to look for chitin you'd be better off looking at arthropods. The exoskeletons of arthropods everywhere tend to be made of the stuff (with a lot of mineralization in various sea arthropods we are all familiar with).

As to fungi, their cell walls do indeed contain chitin.

The moral of the story is that if you want to get your fiber in the form of chitin you should consume bugs or fungi (I know what my choice is).

[golly]

All the recycled shroom parts are composted by mixing with a small amount of Horse doo in a ziplock , which is left to sit in the sun...It only takes one week to become compost...

[Bio_DUD]

so they become substrate and are not used to derive clone mushrooms.
Your point of doing this is to raise the amount of tryptophans (Psilocybin precursors) in the substrate. Have you read Stamet's Mushroom cultivator chapter where he explains the process of using butts to continue generations of mycelia on cardboard?
Keep up the experimentation Golly.

[golly]

Yup,, just consentrating the precursors...Live stem butts seem to work well for woodlovers but not as well for Cubs, propagation wise...