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#1 loochypooch

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 05:17 PM

Let me know if you think this is practical and efficient, I think my friend is about to be swearing by it. There's nothing difficult about this and no special equipment is really required. He wishes someone would have explained it to him this simply in the first place.

Required Items
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- Any amount of MHRB (preferrably 100+g)
- Roebic Drain Cleaner (Basic Lye)
- VM&P Naptha (Non-Polar Solvent)
- Distilled Water
Tools
- Turkey Baster
- Stainless Steel Utensil
- Glass Pie Dish
- Quart Jars with Lids
Note: You will need one quart jar for each cup of mhrb powder (100g of MHRB is about 1 cup powder).

Step 1 Prepare Bark:
1) Break and twist up the MHRB by hand into as small pieces as possible,
no need to hurt your hands. Use plyers if the bark is tough.
2) Put a handful of the broken up MHRB into the blender to turn it to
powder.
3) Empty the powder from the blender into a bowl or large measuring cup
and repeat blending until all of the powder is ready.

Step 2 Mix Jars:
4) First, add two cups of distilled water to each empty quart jar.
Note: Put on goggles and rubber gloves for this part...
5) Add three tablespoons of Lye to each jar.
[All of the jars should be about half full of black liquid now.]
6) Stir the liquid gently with the stainless steel utensil.
7) Slowly and gently add 1 cup of mhrb powder to each jar.
Be careful not to splatter or spill.
8) Stir the powder gently until it is absorbed into the black liquid.
9) Wipe the tops of the jars and put the lids on, then shake violently.

The remainder of his plan is simple. Let the Jars sit overnight. The following day add about 300ml of Naptha to each Jar and shake, then let sit overnight (shaking often). Then he will syphen off the Naptha using the Turkey Baster into the glass Pie Dish, being extremely careful to get only the clear Naptha and no black gunk (lye). He could then add more Naptha, shake, let sit overnight and then syphen again to increase yields. Meanwhile the glass Pie Plate will be filled with nearly pure DMT crystals once the Naptha evaporates completely.

Does anyone see any errors in this thinking?


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Posted 06 January 2007 - 05:33 PM

I couldn't tell you if there are any errors as I am new to this and only know of a FOAF who has used marsofold's tek. However, I'm sure my FOAF would like to try it as it's seems fairly simple. What kind of results have you gotten from this tek?

#3 loochypooch

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 05:47 PM

I couldn't tell you if there are any errors as I am new to this and only know of a FOAF who has used marsofold's tek. However, I'm sure my FOAF would like to try it as it's seems fairly simple. What kind of results have you gotten from this tek?


I'll post the results from this simplified method when they come in, but the results are almost guaranteed to be outstanding compared to my friends first efort (the results of which were suprisingly good, despite all the difficulties and mistakes). http://mycotopia.net...ead.php?t=18204

The main idea here is that the jars are narrow so a thick layer of Naptha should settle at the top, making it far more easy to syphen off than if a bowl were used, for example. Also the jars allow for shaking, which surely will help disperse the good stuff. Lastly, everyone here has jars right? LOL.

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 08:04 PM

yeahp. looks fine as quickly as I read it. Good thing spice teks are simple, eh?

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 08:39 PM

then let sit overnight (shaking often)


Should foaf bump a few lines to stay awake and shake all night? hehe
jk Loochy

I have only one question for now.
When you syphon, say the 2nd and 3rd time
do you keep putting it in the same plate or does
that even matter?

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 09:05 PM

It sounds a little light on the lye. I have shaken before and the liquid forms an emulsion. If it doesn't separate in short [ 10 min ] time then you need more lye. I will try to find the correct lye/liquid ratio.
Good luck!! Spice is nice.

#7 loochypooch

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 09:58 PM

Per Vortex's quick tek he recommends 1tbsp per 150ml distilled water. Two cups = 450ml, I believe. Therefore 3 tablespoons of Lye fits the recipe. A little more can't hurt he says. Just make sure your liquid is black and it should be a winner...

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 10:06 PM

I don't see why you need distilled water, :eusa_thin once you add lye the ph will go way up, so tap water would work just fine, the only time distilled water is really needed is when washing the end product...

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 10:10 PM

tap water varies dramatically from place to place. ime

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 10:23 PM

I suppose so, I've used Dh2o, but found that my tap water works just fine...

#11 loochypooch

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Posted 07 January 2007 - 02:00 AM

It sounds a little light on the lye. I have shaken before and the liquid forms an emulsion. If it doesn't separate in short [ 10 min ] time then you need more lye. I will try to find the correct lye/liquid ratio.
Good luck!! Spice is nice.


This seems to be the only concern of mine. I've read you can put the jar in a pot of warm water to get rid of the emulsion, but adding more lie would be easier if that works. Let me know what you find out and I'll also post my friends findings.

Also, I'm suprised no one mentioned adding the Naptha right from the start to simplify and speed things up. My friend is very patient, but maybe more patient than necessary.

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Posted 07 January 2007 - 01:14 PM

Lye solutions can etch glass jars, and after a couple of days it could bust open and spew your solution everywhere. Be careful, and keep an eye out for visible cracks. It might be better to use HDPE containers.

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Posted 07 January 2007 - 01:56 PM

If one uses new jars and only does this soak for up to three days do you really think the possibility of the lye (heavily diluted with water mind you) will crack the jar? I'm doubtful of this, but I could believe that using the same jars multiple times would be a problem. Would you give this a thumbs up if the jars were discarded after the third pull?

Also, it doesn't look like HDPE containers would be hard to find, but what are the chances of the plastic dissolving into and contaminating the solution?

Lye solutions can etch glass jars, and after a couple of days it could bust open and spew your solution everywhere. Be careful, and keep an eye out for visible cracks. It might be better to use HDPE containers.



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Posted 07 January 2007 - 04:05 PM

I have not had lye ever break any jars mason or gallon pickle. I used the gallon miracle whip jars for extractions and they are naptha safe.

#15 loochypooch

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Posted 07 January 2007 - 04:15 PM

Required Items
Agents
- Any amount of MHRB (preferrably 100+g)
- Roebic Drain Cleaner (Basic Lye)
- VM&P Naptha (Non-Polar Solvent)
- Distilled Water
Tools
- Turkey Baster
- Stainless Steel Utensil
- Glass Pie Dish
- Quart Jars with Lids
Note: You will need one quart jar for each cup of MHRB powder (100g of MHRB is about 1 cup powder).

Step 1 Prepare Bark:
1) Break and twist up the MHRB by hand into as small pieces as possible,
no need to hurt your hands. Use plyers if the bark is tough.
2) Put a handful of the broken up MHRB into the blender to turn it to
powder.
3) Empty the powder from the blender into a bowl or large measuring cup
and repeat blending until all of the powder is ready.

Step 2 Mix Jars:
4) First, add two cups of distilled water to each empty quart jar.
Note: Put on goggles and rubber gloves for this part...
5) Add three tablespoons of Lye to each jar.
[All of the jars should be about half full of black liquid now.]
6) Stir the liquid gently with the stainless steel utensil.
7) Slowly and gently add 1 cup of MHRB powder to each jar.
Be careful not to splatter or spill.
8) Stir the powder gently until it is absorbed into the black liquid.
9) Add around 150ml+ of Naptha, but make sure there is room to shake contents.
10) Wipe the tops of the jars and put the lids on, then shake thoroughly.

Let the jars sit overnight, shake every now and then....

Step 4 Syphen Naptha
1) Syphen the Naptha off the top using the Turkey Baster and squirt it into the glass Pie Dish, being extremely careful to get only the clear Naptha and no black gunk (lye).
2) Add about 150ml more Naptha to the jar, shake and let sit overnight for a second (and then third) pull.

Step 5 Evaporate Naptha
Put a fan next to, or a dehydrator over the pie dish filled with Naptha. When it is dried out there will be white crystals everywhere. Continue to dry until no Naptha is smelled. There will be an oily residue, which is probably just plant oils and are safe.

I don't think you need to clean/defat the crystals further unless you plan on storing them. I would like to see someone post a SIMPLE and precise method for doing that to to add to this tek.

http://mycotopia.net...79&d=1168110437



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Posted 07 January 2007 - 06:17 PM

Well, I can say really, never done it. Ive only heard tale. I guess it depends on the ammount of time exposed, and the concentration of Lye.

HDPE is Plastic #2. Look for the triangular recycling symbol with a 2 inside. Solvents will eat certain plastics, and rubbers. Probably the ring on the canning lids.

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Posted 07 January 2007 - 07:04 PM



http://mycotopia.net...79&d=1168110437

that looks awful clean. without a defat, with the bark i've been using the nap would be piss yellow. is that a pic from this tek?

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Posted 07 January 2007 - 07:10 PM

Step 2 Mix Jars:
4) First, add two cups of distilled water to each empty quart jar.
Note: Put on goggles and rubber gloves for this part...
5) Add three tablespoons of Lye to each jar.
[All of the jars should be about half full of black liquid now.]
6) Stir the liquid gently with the stainless steel utensil.
7) Slowly and gently add 1 cup of MHRB powder to each jar.
Be careful not to splatter or spill.
8) Stir the powder gently until it is absorbed into the black liquid.


i'm really not trying to nit pick here but when i add lye to water the solution stays clear. once i add it to the polar extract of mhrb the solution then turns black.

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Posted 07 January 2007 - 07:26 PM

That's very clear for straight base spice, i think the magic is in room temp. extractions...:eusa_thin

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Posted 07 January 2007 - 07:40 PM

That's very clear for straight base spice, i think the magic is in room temp. extractions...:eusa_thin


I agree condo.




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