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Posted 10 January 2007 - 04:36 PM

(my friend is not using powdered lye).


I stand corrected....Loochy is using solid..

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 07:10 PM

right on, you are all nobel countrymen indeed. true friends to help introduce others to foreign universes...

tonight i shall powder the RB, and add it into the water/lye solution. as well as adding naptha
wish me luck, and i hope i don't need it.




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Posted 11 January 2007 - 12:23 AM

Hey Ciao, could you post your results when finished? A FOAF wanted to try loochy's tek but only has the crystallized lye as well. Curious to see the results. :shy:

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 12:39 AM

WARNING: find the right equivalent of powdered lie, it is probably less, but I dont know. i dont want bad information getting out, even though in this case i dont thinka little extra lye would be a problem.

You can always add a little at a time, stir and then test the ph -- it should be 13.5 or so.

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 01:34 AM

i will step-by-step my buddys procedure with pics as he goes. just powdered the MHRB :loveeyes: that purplish dust is glorious... and its only the first step.
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what do you'z guyz think about these measurements for 56g of RB. muchas gracias BBB.
1 cup distilled water
1.5 (+) tablespoons NaOH
85ml naptha (per pull)
http://mycotopia.net...ead.php?t=18204
thanks for this ^^^^ pooch. very thorough and informative.



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ps: posting pics? how would one perform said action?

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 02:10 AM

1) When posting scroll down to 'Attach Files'
2) Click 'Manage Attachments'
3) Click 'Browse'
4) Pick your photo and click 'open'

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 02:20 AM

first steps
i like this coffee grinder
sooper dooper
ciao

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 03:18 AM

:bow: WOW this shit is simple.. of course one must take care..
but that is the easiest tek ever.. maybe its just because the write up is so good:bow:
now if only i could find some local supply

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 03:21 AM

:bow: WOW this shit is simple.. of course one must take care..
but that is the easiest tek ever.. maybe its just because the write up is so good:bow:
now if only i could find some local supply

supply for MHRB? or what... this is super simple you're right. i couldn't believe it, i'm using this for 56g of MHRB but i think i'll use marsofold's tek for my 228g batch that's about to arrive.

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 03:43 AM

yeah i wish there was some kinda plant that grew locally that i could just pick and peel

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 11:17 AM

i will step-by-step my buddys procedure with pics as he goes. just powdered the MHRB :loveeyes: that purplish dust is glorious... and its only the first step.
fantasmatronic
what do you'z guyz think about these measurements for 56g of RB. muchas gracias BBB.
1 cup distilled water
1.5 (+) tablespoons NaOH
85ml naptha (per pull)
http://mycotopia.net...ead.php?t=18204
thanks for this ^^^^ pooch. very thorough and informative.



I'd probably go with 2 tbsp of lye and 300ml of solvent, since you have the extra space in the jar. That thicker layer of solvent will be soooooo easy to syphen off cleanly. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think the solvent will pull the alkaloids out and distribute them equally throughout it. In other words, no need to worry about trying to get the bottom layer of solvent off. You don't want to get any lye in the turkey baster at all.

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 12:08 PM

so pooch, maybe the way to go with this tek is doing less MHRB at a time? allowing our FOAFs to add more solvent, thereby making the pulls easier? but it guess it is a pain in the ass to do so little MHRB at a time. hmmm... thanks for the info though

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 06:07 PM

less bark with more solvent
would = longer to evaporate and
harder to wash to say the least.IMO:D

Also if your goal is a freeze separation,(cleaner/purer product)
well then you need as much of the dmt in the
naptha as possible.(percentage wise)
It is said that if the dmt content is
far less than the naptha content,not all of the dmt
will fall out.

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 07:33 PM

Has anyone ever tried using ice + salt to speed up the freeze precip step?

Just putting a mason jar filled with a naptha pull into a coffee tin with the ice+salt mixture around it.

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 08:54 PM

I'd say that would work for the one's that
have the room and equipment for it.
Salt/Ice/water won the (fastest way to chill a beef from room temp)contest on myth busters! :special:

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 09:14 PM

No salt, water, freezing for this tek...it is the simplest of the simple. I want to make a correction though. The Lye is clear and does not turn the solution black, it IS after adding the powder that happens.

I am also thinking next time I'd recommend a 12 hour soak before each pull instead of 24. I am thinking if you can get the goodies out within 48 hours then the tannins and other undesirable oils will not get pulled. Further eliminating the need for any further processing. Whadya think?

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 10:30 PM

No salt, water, freezing for this tek...it is the simplest of the simple. I want to make a correction though. The Lye is clear and does not turn the solution black, it IS after adding the powder that happens.

I am also thinking next time I'd recommend a 12 hour soak before each pull instead of 24. I am thinking if you can get the goodies out within 48 hours then the tannins and other undesirable oils will not get pulled. Further eliminating the need for any further processing. Whadya think?


^^i'd have to agree with that, though i've yet to do this entire tek. Privacy is not abundant right now. But i will try the 12 hour soak... and of course inform all of you of the outcome.

I have two forms of lye. one is liquid, but it doesn't actually say "lye" on it. it says, instead, "contains sodium hydroxide" but doesn't say it contains anything else. The other is solid "pellet" form, and says 100% lye on it, i was going to go with the solid form, unless you think the liquid is trustworthy/more beneficial. ciao

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 10:40 PM

PS: the liquid lye is Mr. Roebic brand...

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 12:02 AM

Good luck mongrel, it's definitely something worth experiencing in one's lifetime...

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 12:41 PM

Required Items
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- Any amount of MHRB (preferrably 100+g)
- Roebic Drain Cleaner (Basic Lye)
- VM&P Naptha (Non-Polar Solvent)
- Distilled Water
Tools
- Turkey Baster
- Stainless Steel Utensil
- Glass Pie Dish
- Quart Jars with Lids
Note: You will need one quart jar for each cup of MHRB powder (100g of MHRB is about 1 cup powder).

Step 1 Prepare Bark:
1) Break and twist up the MHRB by hand into as small pieces as possible,
no need to hurt your hands. Use plyers if the bark is tough.
2) Put a handful of the broken up MHRB into the blender to turn it to
powder.
3) Empty the powder from the blender into a bowl or large measuring cup
and repeat blending until all of the powder is ready.

Step 2 Mix Jars:
4) First, add two cups of distilled water to each empty quart jar.
Note: Put on goggles and rubber gloves for this part...
5) Add three tablespoons of Lye to each jar.
6) Stir the liquid gently with the stainless steel utensil.
7) Slowly and gently add 1 cup of MHRB powder to each jar.
Be careful not to splatter or spill.
8) Stir the powder gently until it is absorbed evenly and it turns black.
9) Add 150ml-300ml of Naptha, just leave enough room to shake contents.
10) Wipe the tops of the jars and put the lids on, then shake vigorously.

Let the jars sit overnight (8-12 hours should do probably), shake every now and then....

Step 4 Syphen Naptha
1) Syphen the Naptha off the top using the Turkey Baster and squirt it into the glass Pie Dish, being extremely careful to get only the clear Naptha and no black gunk (lye).
2) Add more Naptha to the jar and repeat this step a total of 3x.

Step 5 Evaporate Naptha
Put a fan next to, or a dehydrator over the pie dish filled with Naptha. When it is dried out there will be white crystals everywhere. Continue to dry until no Naptha is smelled.

NOTE: By making the soaks only 12 hours long (maybe less, like 8?) and using thick layers of naptha to obtain easy and pure pulls, the resulting crystals should be very clean and further processing unecessary. Also this tek is for low quantities so keep in mind additional washes could decrease the yield to unacceptable levels. My friend says 100g MHRB produced 20 mind blowing experiences without any harshness.







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