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#1 hagbard celine

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 05:23 PM

I found this posted on and just wondered what you thought about this. Seems too good (easy) to be true...

(7-9 days total) The Sit and Soak.

Materials: (for one dose)
50grams dried peruvian torch flesh powder
Everclear or 99% Isopropyl rubbing alcohol (you can use 93% or 91% just make sure there is only ALCOHOL and WATER. when using isopropyl evaporation is important.)
1 glass jar big enough to hold the powder.
Another Glass jar to hold the extract liquid.
1 large glass pyrex pie plate or baking dish (must use GLASS ONLY!! important!!!)
Coffee filters, or a muslin, or a cheesecloth.

First put the torch powder in the glass jar, and pour your alcohol in covering the powder 2 inches or enough to double the contents of the jar.shake the jar vigorously then leave it to sit for 3 days shaking it from time to time. when your alcohol turns a greenish black it has absorbed enough alkaloids after three days then you carefully pour off the liquid into a seperate jar and filter it using the Coffee filters saving the powder. a tee shirt or a cheese cloth works well too. after straining off the greenish colored alcohol put the powder back in the original jar and add fresh alcohol. repeat three times. after you have let the powder soak for three pulls over 9 days the alcohol should stop turning a dark green and should be a light see-through green. this is how you know your powder got most of the goodies extracted. if you want you can pull until it's clear. Finally collect all the alcohol then put it in the big glass pyrex dish for evaporation.

to evaporate: a fan blowing on the pyrex dish will dry in a few hours. drying can be sped up by letting the glass baking dish sit on a pot of boiling water, but make sure you use an ELECTRIC STOVE because a gas stove may ignite alcohol fumes. if you are in your kitchen make sure the fan is on and a door is open for adequate ventilation. the alcohol should evaporate quickly leaving a gooey black residue which can be scraped up, rolled into balls and frozen for storage.just make sure ALL THE ALCOHOL IS EVAPORATED., and this can be done by smelling the extraction, it shouldnt smell at all like alcohol. this gooey residue is mescaline freebase oil, chlorophyl, waxes, plant fat, and other alkalouds. if you used 99% isopropyl the goo will be more of a dry flaky crud called mescaline carbonate which can be scraped up and powdered. the mescaline carbonate is formed when the solvent has been disolved and the mescaline reacts with CO2 in the air to form a crystalized salt.

They prefaced this with:

here are two rediculously easy extraction teks which aFOAF has found great sucess with.
the end result produces not only mescaline but other goodies and alkaloids are also extracted so its not
like you are wasting anything in the process and the spirit of the plant is preserved.a dose of about 50 grams peruvians is a good way to test for potency and still not be dissapointed in fact some have compared it to an all day "psychedelic lolipop." most Peruvian Torch skin from online vendors is like .8% to 1.2% mescaline. if intensity is your desire simply increase the dosage after you have tested the waters. the advantage to this method is that there is no slimy cactus tea or snot to drink, and no large amount of powder capsules bloating your stomach reducing nausea considerably and allowing for the possibility higher doses with less discomfort.

Someone had suggested that three two day soaks would get out a similar amount...

#2 rocketman



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Posted 16 January 2007 - 07:46 PM

Yes iso or everclear extractions work with cactus. The downside is you lose a good bit of magic with alcohol. It is easy to do and worth it for the folks with sensitive stomachs. You end up with a black, very sticky tar, that honestly doesnt compare to non extracted flesh in strength or the trip itself. If you have an aversion to eating 50g of dried cactus, you could do the iso or everclear extract with much less discomfort. There is still nausea, but not as bad.

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Posted 17 January 2007 - 07:55 AM

For me the nausea isn't as bad as eating raw powder but it's still so bad as to make any trip barely noticeable through feeling so sick and ill.

#4 shiftybuddah



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Posted 18 January 2007 - 06:29 PM

I took a dose of "less drowsy" dramamine an hour before eating the cactus powder and had no nausea. I ate 43-45g of powder. Long pleasant trip. dosed at 9am had come down enough to fall asleep by 3am. I burped up some nasty cactus flavored burps, but it wasn't bad at all. Its also important to mention I ate the cactus on a complete empty stomach. My breakfast that day was 45 grams of cactus, and a multi-vitamin.

#5 hagbard celine

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Posted 19 January 2007 - 06:51 PM

In Theory, if the ISO turned black after a few hours would you pull the ISO off and replace or let it sit for a full day?

#6 hagbard celine

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Posted 21 January 2007 - 07:30 PM

the first pic is a soak in progress with 99% iso.
the second pic is the pull iso (once a day) thatis being held in until the final evap. just doing a bit of evap until then. trying to reduce the solution. i don't want to go all the way, so giving it less surface area with the salsa jar. also that is cory dillion putting the pats up 14-3.
down with the colts.
go pats!

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#7 hagbard celine

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 11:54 AM

any suggestions for cleaning up the iso solution in any way?

prolly should have just gone with the a/b...

#8 hagbard celine

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 04:47 PM

So they were only able to make pulls until the iso turned a lighter green as the date of a meeting with a fellow psychonaut had arrived.

the dark green tar was scraped up and formed into two .7g balls which were swallowed.

About an hour before that spice was consumed.

Two hours later unsure if there was a first alert or not from the earlier spice and cannabis, another spice journey was decided on. This blast was much more than either person had ever experienced. One person reported being in the desert high on cliffs. The other said little except that they didn't think they were coming back. Once they returned to their bodies the beautiful (beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!) visuals and altered perception continued for 5 or so more hours until one person could no longer keep their eyes open after being caught in some neither world of sleep and awake. He thought that was strange and they both ended up sleeping for 4 or 5 hours. Once awake again, perception was certainly altered with minor visual distortions throughout the rest of the day.

It's a shame they weren't able to stay awake longer. Perhaps next time each person will take 100...

or try a different method with better yield :)

All in all they thought this tek was amazing and a great intro to the t peruvianus

#9 duncan



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Posted 09 February 2007 - 08:25 PM

very nice looking tek. I have some just setting around waiting for me to get to the store and get some iso. I am doing a similar tek with wild lettuce. Yes it use iso and pulling and everything else mentioned. i plan to do some work with that later on tonight.
Great post!

#10 Hippie3



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Posted 09 February 2007 - 09:25 PM

cool, it worked

#11 Boombloom



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Posted 09 February 2007 - 10:20 PM

Nice avatar hag... looks like the Eagle nebula mirrored and other shit added...I like it.

Any how I wanted to know about hangover with this method....I get MASSIVE headaches the next day and was thinkin i need to do extraction or something to limit the trash.

#12 SLaG



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Posted 11 February 2007 - 09:20 PM

Can anyone PM me a place to buy the cactus flour? My old provider quit selling it.

Also, in theory if you could raise the pH, then you would get more of the alkaloids right?

#13 hagbard celine

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Posted 13 February 2007 - 02:35 PM


as far as they said, no hangover. at least no more than a little brain fog. also they reported no ill feelings during the experience, in fact they were both quite hungry and felt quite pleasant the whole time.

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