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#1 golly

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 11:44 AM

Been messing around with Cube clones on carboard and thought i would share a few observations..
Cardboard can be made from different trees and glue formulas ,both soft and hardwood ,,So you never know exactly how a clone will take to what you have...especially for compost lovers like Cubes..

After having a few weakly growing attempts,,i decided to dip the card into an extremely diluted solution of 3 drops fish fertilizer in 1qt h2o + a pinch of lime..

This resulted in much better growth with no sighns of mold yet after 7 days.

The nutes are just barely enough to support the Myc and not quite enough to germinate mold spores [at least not yet]...

The pic shows a 7 day clone in a non sterile environment..Simply a cut stem section dropped onto the card ,which was just dunked in the hot solution..
It's very important that the cardboard is just damp and not glistening wet,
or not much growth will occur..
It also helps to put a folded damp paper towel under the card to provide
a moisture reserve...

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 12:06 PM

I have some clones of pe going well on cardboard (ramen noodle box).
Cut little one 1*1inch squares, wetted them down and shook off the extra water, then placed each on in little jewelry ziplocks and microwaved each one for a few seconds.

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 01:01 PM

interesting, golly... what made you use fish fert.? just experimenting with various nute additives? now is this something that you would suggest for use as spawn or for, say, growing more clone tissue in open air for H2O2 clean up and later use? :)

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 01:13 PM

Nice, Golly. That mycelium looks nice and fluffy and healthy.

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 05:25 PM

Well Faht ,I did notice that my Bluefoot mycelium seemed to respond to watering with a very dilute Fish fert solution...So thought i would try it here.

I suspect that any manure juice or even Karo may have the same effect when used in tiny amounts...

I'm gonna transfer a small piece from the growing edge of the mycelium to a spawn jar ,just to see...None of this is sterile though..If it was sterile then
this could be an easy way to expand the clone...

But the main experiment with this , is to gradually add ground rice/coir to the colo'd cardboard and gradually build it up so it can fruit... It serves no real purpose but then, i'm easily amused..heh...
Thnx BC...

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 05:35 PM

nice growth there, pretty strange on cardboard that :eusa_clap

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 08:41 PM

thanks for that tip on putting damp paper towl under.
My cardboard would dry out after few days.

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 09:38 PM

It serves no real purpose but then, i'm easily amused..heh...
Thnx BC...


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Posted 24 January 2007 - 12:01 AM

cool brotha... just tryin to yoink some info out of ya. :) on with the entertainment then!

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 12:20 AM

Have you tried using any vulva's?
would using a vulva be a clone, or more resemblant of multispore?

I heard the idea from that 1999 stamets video

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 09:37 AM

I"ve played with a few vulva's in my day..:) But if you mean Volva then -I chose not to use the stembutt because they are not as clean ..They should proly be the fastest growing part initially and would be considered clone material...

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 09:45 AM

Lol! nice idea golly.

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 09:55 AM

when you say
fish fert
you mean fish emulsion, yes ?
if so i can see the need for lime
as fish emulsion is very acidic.
can't argue with success of course
but one wonders if a bit of karo might do as well once diluted
and soaked into cardboard ?

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 09:58 AM

A few days ago I was thinking about dipping a little cardboard into a light karo solution to start some azure myc on...hmmmm...I may have to get busy!

Nice work, golly. Looks really robust and healthy.

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 01:42 PM

Yep i bet the karo would stimulate growth ,I guess i would start at a threshhold value of .5% solution in a nonsterile environment but could be way higher if sterile..
I chose the fish emulsion for it's complex carbs n' sugars ,which i have read -provide healthier growth..The fish is acidic though by itself ,I have never seen it get moldy which is also a plus..

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 02:48 PM

A dip like that might really get your dried samples going too.

Yeah, that fish emulsion doesn't seem to bad. I use it in the garden. Of course... how much more rank can a substance get? :)

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 04:04 PM

Yaa it's pretty bad...Decided to do a comparison Karo V Fish...

On one side of the expanding myc - i put a drop of 3% Karo ,,on the other side the Fish [4 drips to a pint+lime]

We'll see which side grows best ...

The fish emusion dropped the PH to 5.2 in distilled water so i raised it to about 8...
It's a race to the edge of the carboard folks...place your bets....heh..

I do have some dried flakes on cardbord soaked in plain water ..It's about 4 weeks old and just showing some very slow growth in isolated spots..Maybe i'll give it a Karo boost too...

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 10:53 AM

After 3 days the myc continues to expand but the original stem piece was removed after showing sighns of mold..
The left side was given some extra fish nutes and the right side ,extra Karo..

This has not really stimulated growth in either direction much..In fact if i were to stretch out the corregations - it has proly grown more sideways..

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 10:59 AM

This is what happens when you add too many nutes in a non sterile environ..
The left side clone has a lovely cobweb bloom...heh..

This is how Golly gets his jolly's...

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 11:07 AM

Here is a clone attempt using dry crushed flakes of Cubes on plain water soaked cardboard, this is about a month old...As u can see growth is very isolated and weak..

So in this new test , the card has been soaked in a 1% karo solution and the dry pieces placed in the grooves [2nd pic]

There is also a 2% Karo test too...They are only 12hrs old in the pic...

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