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#81 SpornStar

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 02:59 PM

a trusty dog. personally i prefer the sharper instincts of these dogs:

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She's not quite as fast as they are but she did bring me a squirrel last week. Surprised me I thought she was too slow all these years chasing them up trees, but she got him... I sleep well. Now yall got me thinkin about robbers and scarey things.... S'good to know though.

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 03:15 PM

http://www.hideadoor.com/


Make your basement a bit smaller and seal up any exposed windows.



As far as they know there is nothing but dirt on the other side of that cement wall.




If using this route it would be wise to never touch the door without gloves and make sure your basement is dust free and there are no high traffic marks in your carpet. cobwebs might give this away too.

I have no idea how well these doors are with light penetration but i intend to find out at some point.

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 03:53 AM

Hey guys, Im not one for posting links and what not, but after is all said and done, we still have our windows to worry about, they can smash those very easily and take you for all you have. I know from experience, been robbed a couple times for everything. well, this stuff, is a film you put over your windows, and no matter what, you cant break the window when this film is on them, hammers, bats, even explosions and tornados wont brak a window with this stuff on it, its freekin AMAZING, I just want everyone to know all their options, if I shouldnt put this link please delete it, Thanks alot. I think youll be fascinated though, I was!! :D http://shattergard.com/ Bless, Ras

#84 Hippie3

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 07:28 AM

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 12:07 PM

This is totally irrelevant to the thread, but hey, knowledge is power and all that crap.

Actually Hyenas are more of a cat than a dog, so to speak. In the same superfamily, Felidea.

Sorry. Please don't shoot me.

Come to think of it though, maybe a cat would fare better than a dog. It wouldn't be inconspicuous, what with the gigantic fences around your property and all the traffic slowing down when they go by to get a better look. But hey, the very best place to hide is in plain site.

Yeah, some lions would do the trick. Pack creatures, can be very tame. Very territorial to strangers. Bone eaters too. Little clean up in the morning to hide the evidence. Prolly little chance of that ever happening, tho. :) (yes im joking)

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 06:15 PM

yeah, Im with rocketman guys, LOL. I am known as a peace loving "hippy" who will give anyone anything they could ask for, but someone comes into my house ,especially when Im home, they really better be ready to see whats on the other side;)

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 02:36 PM

buddy o mine just built a wood frame/plastic sheet greenhouse to grow his meds in. after the frame was built he ran some hog wire fencing around the interior perimeter then wired it directly into 110V ac. zap. personally, i do what sol does. i don't buy expensive shit, and even the cheapo shit i don't have a lot of. plus i avoid engaging in felonies on my property. In england they man-trap the tops of a lot of walls by sticking broken glass to the tops of them, no one gets in trouble for that. of course the british legal system works a little better that the USA's in those kind of cases.

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 03:22 PM

buddy o mine just built a wood frame/plastic sheet greenhouse to grow his meds in. after the frame was built he ran some hog wire fencing around the interior perimeter then wired it directly into 110V ac. zap. personally, i do what sol does. i don't buy expensive shit, and even the cheapo shit i don't have a lot of. plus i avoid engaging in felonies on my property. In england they man-trap the tops of a lot of walls by sticking broken glass to the tops of them, no one gets in trouble for that. of course the british legal system works a little better that the USA's in those kind of cases.


That hotwired greenhouse is technically a "booby trap" and seriously illegal, at least in the US (as in a murder charge if a burglar dies, which has already happened with exactly the same trap you described). That's different from broken bottles on top of a wall (seen in New Orleans, too), which is a passive measure (not really a "trap" per se) that, for example, wandering children aren't likely to encounter (unlike the curious greenhouse...what's in thereZAP!). Your friend better hope his trap doesn't ever get sprung!

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 04:51 PM

my step-father was cited and fined for placing a bige pile of broken beer bottles beneath a rear window of his automitive machine shop to keep out burglars. then they made him get rid of the pile, that was a real bitch.

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Posted 14 April 2007 - 02:18 PM

hrm. mebbe i should warn this guy. i've heard of the case where some burglar fell thru a roof and broke something then sued and won. the guy w/ da greenhouse is on medi mar, so he's not gonna get in trouble for his plants, but having a murder/maslaughter rap wouldn't be fun.

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Posted 14 April 2007 - 06:31 PM

the best solution, imo, would be to get two different types of locks. it isn't that expensive to get a lock that you open up with your fingerprint.

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 10:25 AM

hrm. mebbe i should warn this guy. i've heard of the case where some burglar fell thru a roof and broke something then sued and won. the guy w/ da greenhouse is on medi mar, so he's not gonna get in trouble for his plants, but having a murder/maslaughter rap wouldn't be fun.


I found a blurb about the specific story I was thinking of, and there was a lot of community support for the booby-trapper (mainly local merchants), but a booby-trapped weed grow, medical or not, could easily be spun in the press as a ruthless criminal enterprise. Plus, judges in similar cases have implied that they didn't like the idea of a citizen imposing a death sentence for breaking and entering or theft of property. Then there's the issue of accidentally killing a fireman since most people aren't that skilled at wiring up high-voltage circuits (what fireman would assume a smoldering greenhouse would be electrically charged? He might then spray water on it, and ZAP! Talk about a PR fiasco for a med. grower! The "heartless dope profiteer kills a community hero" headline wouldn't help at all.)

But the idea was to rig a contraption to keep thieves from breaking in through the roof of his discount store in Liberty City, the Miami neighborhood that erupted in violence after a jury acquitted the policemen accused of killing a black insurance salesman named Arthur McDuffie.

Inside the front door of his shop, about 10 feet up, Prentice Rasheed mounted two metal grates. He nailed one against the wall and propped the other at a 45-degree angle against the ceiling. The final touch was an extension cord, one end plugged into an electrical outlet, the other rigged to the grates. Under the hole in the ceiling that burglars had been using as their private entrance to Rasheed's AMCOP Station and Trading Post, there was now a primitive barrier that also happened to have 110 volts of current running through it.

Four or five days passed. No break-ins.

Shortly after 9 a.m. on Sept. 30, Rasheed's partner opened the store for business. As he unlocked the black metal grate that shielded the front plate-glass door, John El-Amin could see the chunks of plaster on the floor. "Broke in again," he said. Stepping inside, Amin looked up. His heart began to race.

Above him, caught inside the grate was a young man clutching a portable radio, his pockets stuffed with jewelry.

"I thought he was trying to get out and I called to him," Amin said last week, standing below the grates, which have been removed for good.

"The wire was supposed to give a little jolt," Rasheed says now. Burglars, he figured, "would see something was hot there and they would go back. Unfortunately, it didn't work out that way."

On Tuesday, a Dade County grand jury will begin deliberating whether Prentice Rasheed, 42, should stand trial for the death of Odell A. Hicks, the 26-year-old man found electrocuted in his store three weeks ago.

Ellis Rubin, Rasheed's lawyer, says the electrified gates were a "protective device" never designed to kill anybody. Detective Jon Spear of the Miami Police gave a different description when he listed the city's 121st killing this year on a Homicide Division rosterboard: "Man trap." Hours after Hicks' body was brought down from the ceiling, Prentice Rasheed was in the county jail, charged with manslaughter and use of an electrical device during the commission of a felony. Later that day, he was released on bail, but conviction could put him in prison for 15 years. If the grand jury indicts Rasheed, he will plead innocent and won't accept any deals from the state, his lawyer says. "We'll go to trial," Rubin says.


An older story, but still relevant. From: http://www.nieman.ha...s-102086-a.html

Many sites that talk about this issue mention that confinement traps may well be legal. That is, if you rig up a system around the entryway to your front door that closes another door if an alarm is tripped, trapping the intruder in a hallway or something to await the police, it might be fine (some jewelry store security systems are based on this concept). Just don't start poking your trapped burglar with a cattle prod or anything (or at least hide it before the cops get there).

Focus on stealthiness and passive measures (deadbolts, fences, cameras)instead, much safer for everyone...

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Posted 22 April 2007 - 09:56 PM

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Posted 23 April 2007 - 10:09 AM

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pick gun 49.99 Opens 99% of all pin tumbler locks gust like bumpkeys. Thier are only 2 custom tenchin wrenchs one must get the make that 100% of all pin tumbler locks. no qwestions, no I.D, no worry, world wide shipping. Enjoy:eusa_clap



Hmm, seems to me that dropping 50 bucks plus shipping for a gadget takes less skill than filing down a bump key that works, and there are many other factors determining how easy a lock is to pop, so those 99% claims are wildly theoretical at best.

Plus, "amateurs" buy tools, learn how to use them, and that's that. Experts learn why tools work and can then make their own as needed, something offering more flexibility and freedom that just having a tool, and only with a diverse toolbox and an understanding of the fundamentals can someone ever get close to being able to open 99% of the locks out there.

That's why people who know "how" will be able to get a job, but people who know "why" will be their boss!

#95 muddz

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Posted 23 April 2007 - 10:43 PM

i dunno maybe locks will keep the curious people out but if i was to break into something i wouldn't go through the door i would go up to 2nd story if they had it and go through window chances are no alarm on 2nd story windows or just take a saw up to roof and cut hole in it and slide on through i have had to get into my house when locked out and simple credit card could take the screen off and just went around house to find a window that wasn't locked sure someone could go around to the target house and offer them something like free security consultation many people would probably fall for it let them in and just check out the place for yourself or pay off someone to let ya in if it was large store sure many students working there wouldn't mind some extra money...I keep my door locked but i know that it wouldn't keep someone out...kinda off topic but i am sure a couple of bee hives close by and something setup to release some pheromones as deterrent would really mess with some would be theif or set it up next to outdoor grow...my uncle is a truck driver and one night he got robbed and knocked out they hosed his cab with either till he passed out and robbed him broke his shoulder had a window slightly cracked for fresh air

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Posted 24 April 2007 - 04:28 PM

Why not a key activated combination lock, where the key is inserted to release the pins, and then turned to the corresponding combination? Sure would be a lot more work to pick, as the pins would reset every time the wheel was turned past center.




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