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Posted 15 February 2007 - 08:36 PM

I did alot of surfing and reading about this today....i even went to some beekeepers forums. the general consensus seemed to be that a combination of things. The Varoa mite and bad selective breeding are two of the main things fingers are pointed at as well as pesticides and GM pollen/crops. Most beekeepers and bee experts think it is a combination of these things, i didnt read anything about hornets being a real problem.
I also learned from egg stage to Death a worker bee lives to be anywhere from 1 to 4 months old....and generally they live longer when food sources are close. A worker that has to fly farther literally wears out its wings/heart sooner and that spells death.

here are a few links i found in my travels. Hippie ....thanks for bringing this to my attn. I grew up on an orchard, and lived around bees my whole childhood. I am a serious comb honey addict and would get DTs if it ceased to exist.
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http://www.palmbeach...ybees_0328.html

http://www.rense.com/health/madbee.htm

http://www.ecologicalbeekeeping.com/

http://news.mongabay.../0723-bees.html


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Posted 15 February 2007 - 08:41 PM

:thumbdown:

I doubt its mites. But Like you said the real problem is with the Peoples who move their bee's around allot. Look like people with orchards might have to get their own bee hives, If this is the cause and theirs no way to stop it.

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 08:48 PM

Damn, Bee.

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 09:32 PM

What unsettling news. I have a friend that's a beekeeper. I'll have to ask him about it. Y'know this piled up with these insane snow storms and the melting permafrosts... the tulips blooming in michigans' january...and everything else...you kind of get the feeling we're going to see some really dramatic changes globally...more so than the last couple generations.

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 10:43 PM

record snow http://www.breitbart.../D8N7U5S83.html



The Rockies are being pelted with snow.
People in the Northeast are wearing T-shirts outside in January.
The famous cherry trees in Washington DC are already blooming.
Spring flower bulbs are busting through the ground.

the northeast like new york? how can they be under 11 feet od snow wearing t shirts? I dont think these studies agree


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Posted 15 February 2007 - 10:49 PM

heres a couple more links mentioning the varoa mite and colony colapse disorder


http://www.post-gaze.../761799-114.stm
http://www.cbc.ca/te...bee-deaths.html

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 06:14 AM

that was last month gonzo
time changes things you know ?
that was january
now it's february.
in january we were all in tshirts,
now there's snow.
the studies agree just fine
when you remember time passes...

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 08:41 AM

As for your Varro might we have been breeding bee's and theirs a strain that When in the cell and it spins its cocoon it spins the mite in with it and this kills it. That could severely cut down on mite deaths in hives. I really am starting to believe we just been reckless in breeding our bee's and they are all pussy's.



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Posted 16 February 2007 - 08:46 AM

beliefs are easy when no evidence is required...

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 02:03 PM

from CBS tonight


Interesting fact, thanks for bringing it up...

Did we not just experiences el nino (or currently still are???) this past year....from what I recall changes in the climate create drastic changes in the environment. Stress possibly with dealing with the extreme climate fluctuation...who knows..maybe this will keep them damn killer bees from taking over the harsher northern climates. Mother Earth keeping her flock in check. Or maybe she is just weeding out the weaklings for the more dominate species via natural selective breeding in accordance to the environmental issues.

After all, she'll shake us off like a bad case of fleas, whatever happened to the dinosaurs?

Further more who documents what? and what are they basing their facts off of?...aside from the links provided here...

I live in misery and if yall don't like the weather, then stick around because its guaranteed to change.

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 05:13 PM

http://www.honeycoun...219&NewsID=1146

heres another clue......theyre not eating. and pretty much every source ive read on the web indicated that hive predators like wax moths will not eat food from the hive for a few weeks. and when i say theyre not eating, i mean that even if you offer the hive cluster sugar water....they wont eat.

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 05:22 PM

so it's in canada too, apparently...

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 06:17 PM

and france. heres the best thing ive read so far.....some actual science.
its a pdf doc on ccd from a working group of university proffesors from florida dept of agriculture, pennsylvania dept of agriculture, the usda and penn state university. a VERRRY intresting read.

http://www.ento.psu....eUpdate0107.pdf

if you must skim....somewhere in the middle are some microscope slide photos and macro photos of bee 'autopsies" and slides of what theyve found in terms of pathogens in the bees from ccd affected hives.

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 06:49 PM

:amazed:

Thanks for that PDF, it has lots of information.

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 06:55 PM

check out the one photo of a thorax slices of two bees on ccd affect , the other healthy. they thought the infected be was dead when it was sampled for testing. they checked with the beekeeper who sent them the sample....it was a live bee with basically blackened softened thorax tissue.

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 07:04 PM

Well thats not good at all...

Ill have to tell other keepers this summer about that they should watch out for that.



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Posted 16 February 2007 - 08:34 PM

Depressing.

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 11:01 PM

I have a freindly group of bees that likes to hang out every summer in a vine by my house. I hope they come back, I would be lost without them. At the peak of summer, I can go out there, pluck a blossom and hold it out to thme as they feed from it.

Bees are amazing.

If the bees are in trouble, the rest of us can't be too far behind.

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Posted 12 March 2007 - 09:58 PM

wonder if their getting lost,
if indeed that is the case,
might be related to shifts in the
earth's magnetic field,
which is preparing to reverse polarity
which can give rise to aberrant magnetic field fluctuations



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Posted 13 March 2007 - 07:47 AM

Sorry about that first post......What I ment to say is


Heads up Hippie3: Does the date 12/ 21/ 2012 ring a bell here? The Alignment will cause a polar flip. Be in Chichen Itza and wait for KUKULCAN he has the best new spores.

HG




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