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#1 TheJackal

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 04:13 PM

Ordered a 5 LB substrate mycobag on ebay ($20+$5 shipping) for direct fruiting:

"A perfect substrate balances both optimal nutrition
and water absorption/delivery. This substrate does both.
It also takes into consideration the all important pH level.
The initial pH of this substrate is 7.0 with more than
adequate long-term pH buffers and regulators added.

No incubation is ever needed, it's actually discouraged.
As it colonizes, this substrate will produce it's own
incubation heat! Just set on a shelf to colonize!

The full recipe is a secret, but some ingredients are:
aged, shredded equine substrate
organic, inland harvested coco coir
organic earthworm castings
organic milo and millet
food grade amorphous diatomaceous earth
Algit Norwegian kelp meal
A2 vermiculite
organic traditions garden gypsum
organic stevia leaf
and other specialized ingredients."

All comments appreciated!

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 04:21 PM

I think the results will say all, don't you?

#3 weed4all

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 05:05 PM

good luck. hopefully its worth it :rasta:

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 05:26 PM

I think the results will say all, don't you?


As long as I don't F it up hehe!

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 10:57 PM

Sounds like a good experiment. I have never heard of that type of substrate before. Hopefully it works out well for you. Keep us updated

#6 Hippie3

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 08:33 AM

wonder WTF the diatomaecous earth is there for ???
btw i offer a better deal at www.mycrotopia.com -
my MYCRO MIX bags , imho.
:)
the 10 bag package weighs almost 10 pounds,
so our pricing is comparable
but instead of all your eggs being in one basket
it's split into multiple bags
which, being smaller individually,
colonize faster and produce less wastes
which improves your chances of finishing with a good crop.
if that bag goes bad
you're out $25,
if one of mine does
you're only out $5.
;)

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 03:45 PM

wonder WTF the diatomaecous earth is there for ???
btw i offer a better deal at www.mycrotopia.com -
my MYCRO MIX bags , imho.
:)
the 10 bag package weighs almost 10 pounds,
so our pricing is comparable
but instead of all your eggs being in one basket
it's split into multiple bags
which, being smaller individually,
colonize faster and produce less wastes
which improves your chances of finishing with a good crop.
if that bag goes bad
you're out $25,
if one of mine does
you're only out $5.
;)


Thanks Hippie, will order next bags from you!

#8 TheJackal

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 11:54 AM

Big ass bag arrived today!

I think I found a tek that uses the diatomaceous earth:

http://www.shroomery.../Number/6194327

#9 Hippie3

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 03:07 PM

indeed,
but as far as i can tell
it does not explain
why ?....

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 04:47 PM

wherever you bought that from looks exactly the same as this TEK:

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Even the RTV silicone looks the same. I guess monstermitch is selling his bags now. I made some similar bags w/o diamatious earth. I don't understand why you would use microscopic shards used for killing insects though...

#11 Hippie3

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 05:00 PM

I won't allow linking to shroomtalk anymore
now that i know it's just a vendor-run forum
and said vendor is
not one of our sponsors.

#12 TheJackal

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 06:05 PM

wherever you bought that from looks exactly the same as this TEK:

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Even the RTV silicone looks the same. I guess monstermitch is selling his bags now. I made some similar bags w/o diamatious earth. I don't understand why you would use microscopic shards used for killing insects though...


As Hippie notes, monstermitch does not explain the purpose of the DE. I have no clue, being one newb ass topiate (but this sure is a fun hobby hehe :).

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 06:13 PM

I won't allow linking to shroomtalk anymore
now that i know it's just a vendor-run forum
and said vendor is
not one of our sponsors.


wups, sorry

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Posted 24 March 2007 - 10:41 AM

FOAF is trying out a B+ and Redboy experiment with the bag:

http://mycotopia.net...ead.php?t=21147

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 03:46 PM

FOAF had a glitch in the greenhouse and temp got stuck at ~133F for about 8 hours, and FOAF supposes everything is dead now!

FOAF pics of the aftermath below and FOAF appreciates any help!

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#16 Hippie3

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 03:57 PM

can't tell much from those pics, sorry.

#17 TheJackal

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 04:34 PM

can't tell much from those pics, sorry.


No prob, FOAF will give mycobag a week or so to show signs of life, and if no growth, FOAF may try to re-sterilize bag and try again.

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 04:40 PM

see my point about a $25 bag yet ?
ouch.
you should be ok to re-inoculate
provided it doesn't dry too much though,
good luck.

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 06:06 PM

see my point about a $25 bag yet ?
ouch.
you should be ok to re-inoculate
provided it doesn't dry too much though,
good luck.


Point well taken, as FOAF tucks his tail between his legs!

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 01:43 AM

This may explain the use of DIATOMACEOUS EARTH in casing and substrate mixes:

http://wolfcreekranc...eous_earth.html

"Diatomaceous earth is excellent for internal and external parasite control. The mineral and silica content seems to increase feed utilization. Reported to kill 75% of flies and fleas that come in contact with it within 72 hrs. Mixed with grains at a ratio of 2% keeps out pests. Diatomaceous earth is excellent for eliminating ants, aphids, flea beetles, fleas, earwigs, sowbugs, mites, etc."




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