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LSA the Easy Way All trip No Bodyload....


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#1 firegod420

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Posted 18 May 2007 - 10:25 PM

Butane blast(just like extracting THC, i used 5 times filter butane very clean)
morning glories let dry 30min
then soak in 190 proof or better enthanol for 1 hr....

Its foolproof the alcohol will glow bright as can be under blacklight.
What i did was extract it down to powder then added 5 drops of peppermint
oil and 15ml of alcohol ... 1ml is one very powerful dose 8hr trip, no
bodyload at all.....

This trip is excellent worth the effort to butane blast.. You can make it
very potent if u really wanted, like a few drops will be full blown visions... i
suggest extracting more then you would think is one dose due to not
knowing the potentcy of seeds.. but this works everytime its the best
method out in my mind..pretty damn pure extract if you do wash it 3x....

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Posted 19 May 2007 - 12:39 AM

Hi Firegod420! Ahh, nice. What variety seeds were used? Can you elaborate more on butane blast?

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Posted 19 May 2007 - 12:57 AM

yup.. where do you get the seeds?
do you have pictures?

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Posted 19 May 2007 - 08:18 AM

Seeds came from Iamshaman..
they always send you way more then it says on the website.. heh..

5000 riveas, 2700 morning glories were used

Butane blast explained here: https://secure.eu-se...hread.php4?t=45

No pictures atm, still haven't found my power supply maybe i can do another
extraction in a few days on 500HWBR and post pics with everything i did, i will
most likely do so....

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Posted 19 May 2007 - 08:28 AM

what do you mean 5 times filter?

so you put the seeds in the PVC

blast it with butane.. how many times?
do you let it drain from the PVC? or do you remove them from the PVC right after you do the blast? then let it dry 30 mins inside the PVC or outside?

then the seeds from inside the PVC are then soaked in alcohol..
for 1 hour..
then i assume you use a coffee filter to filter out the seeds from the alcohol and keep the alcohol in a vial or something like that?

did i get it right?

what kind of seeds did you get from iamshaman? there are lots of diff kinds..

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Posted 19 May 2007 - 08:38 AM

Use the honey oil extraction tech to get the nasties out of the seeds...

This is 5x times filtered butane:
http://www.vectorkgm...e=stove/gas.cfm

Hit the seeds with 2 10-15second blasts...
nasties fall out the bottom of the filter pipe goodies still in tube
empty tube...

Let mush dry, it does not take long....

Soak for a hour or 2 in 190 proof or better grain alcohol

Evaporate with very light heat like 100degrees no more and a fan..(did not
degrade my product enough to make a difference, it even sat in a well lit
room most of the day so don't worry too much about light and heat its not
that serious just take it into consideration just as long as it ain't extreme
heat or light)

Scrape dry extract

Reconstitute it in a few drops of peppermint oil and how ever much grain
alcohol is needed, make it as potent as you want..

Should taste like alkaloids stronger then the mint or alcohol..
You know this taste from eating riveas str8 up or HBRW..
morning glories are not as potent therefore harder to acquire
this certain taste..please try sometime

I couldn't imagine how potent you can make this with FRESH HBRW and RIVEA = O

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Posted 19 May 2007 - 01:52 PM

sounds easy enough, will have to harvest some fresh glories and give it a shot. excellent post.

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Posted 19 May 2007 - 05:01 PM

Thankz for sharing

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Posted 19 May 2007 - 06:33 PM

There was some fuss about using pvc, stuff about the butane taking some of the pvc with it. But this was for smoking the final product, not eating, so idk)
You can use a beer bottle just as easy. Look into "beer bottle trick"

Triple refined butane is just that, cleaned 5 times, much safer than your standard run of the mill "dirty" butane, lots of additives and yuck. Dont know if that can stick onto the "mush" left behind


Ive tried messing w/ LSA for a longtime now, with no sucess, thanks for showing a method I am capable of :)

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 03:34 PM

I was wondering if any one has had any luck with this method it seems alot easier then using naphtha. I want to try a alcohol extration but i dont know a good place to find lab grade naphtha. I tried a cold water extraction this weekend and learned a few things. I dont realy agree with the whole tea bag thing. I made two doses one of a little over 600 seeds and another of around 400 seeds for my friend. I ground them up in the dark and put them in size 3 tea bags and let them soak in disilled water with tartaric acid for 1 1/2 hours mixing every 10 min in the fridge. I ended up with a white extract. I tried to press a little on the bags and they ripped so i put them both in one jar and put it back in the fridge well i took my first dose. It came on kinda weak so i figured i had not extrated all the lsa. So I tried adding water to the jar with the broken bags and added more tartaric acid to it and mixed very well. I let it soak for another 1 1/2 hours mixing it alot. Then i used my large tea bags as filters using one for the first time through then i trippled them up and ran through agian. I ended up with a more brown looking extract. I then drank it and with in 1/2 hour to an hour i kinda had what i was looking for. I also did not have the bad body load or any thing like that. I know what that feels like from when i was younger and ate 12 bags of ground up seeds. Wish i had tried this method first, instead of putting them in tea bags. I also think from looking at past post about cold water extraction that the number of seeds need to be increased if they are store bought from last year. Had i Known that i would not have only used 600 seeds. For my first lsa extration I would say i learned lot and it turned out pretty good. I am realy interested in this butane defating because i would much rather do and alcohol extration.

This site rules i just found it the other week and i have spent hours reading others experiences. Thanks to everyone in the community

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 05:20 PM

First off you always want to start with a larger quantity of seeds then would think is enough...(due to potentcy variability)

- Grind seeds in a coffee grinder

- Stuff seeds in a stainless, copper or glass tube with one end only small enough to stick a butane nozzle in and on the other end a 1-3inch opening for filter.

- Squirt the butane threw nozzle end all the crap will fall out thru the filter at the bottom. Do this twice for like 3-8 seconds. Make sure not too much pressure builds or you will literally blast your seeds right out the tube.

- Remove seeds from tube and allow to dry for 1 hr

- put seeds in a SMALL jar smaller the better easier to work with, with 95% or better alcohol either Grain or IPA/Rubbing.

- Add a few drops of peppermint oil this is high in acetalhyde and has acetic acid in it to make the LSA/LSH more stable.

- Shake this around hard for 10min then allow to sit in fridge for another hour and 45min.(2 hour extraction)

- carefully pour off top into a filter make sure all seed gook stays in jar.

- Evaporate this down to desired amount(patience is way better, you can use a fan, but if you use heat don't go higher then 100 degrees F.) or evaporate to dry extract(it will be slightly oily from the peppermint oil) and scrape to reconstitute with 60% or better alcohol.(the Tincture has a way better effect then dry extract)

_ Have a nice trip...OR If you want something more pure don't use peppermint oil in first stages. You will also be loosing LSA doing these washes but whatever you want it more pure.

- after you have evaporated it down reconstitute it only in really COLD 99% rubbing alcohol..do this 3 times leaving the GOOK at he bottom each time.. There is still a small amount of LSA in the gook but discard it or eat it later...

- after final scrape and its completely dry reconstitute it in only grain alcohol and add peppermint oil

- Potency at could be very very high at this point and i suggest you don't eat this unless weighed on a really good scale before you reconstitute it..

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 05:30 PM

i will have to give the butane blast a try, great write up. do you know if LSA's can be extracted using isopropyl alcohol and then evaporating the alcohol and water into a tar of some kind? i have read that it does and does not so i am unsure.

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 05:51 PM

so for LSA its said here to chuck the butane and save the seeds for the ethanol extraction...
The purpose being the butane supposedly cleans some unwanteds from the seeds?

This would mean that LSA must be insoluable in butane or else a lot of alkaloids would be lost during the blast process, this is interesting.

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 06:42 PM

so for LSA its said here to chuck the butane and save the seeds for the ethanol extraction...
The purpose being the butane supposedly cleans some unwanteds from the seeds?

This would mean that LSA must be insoluable in butane or else a lot of alkaloids would be lost during the blast process, this is interesting.



Yes it removes all of the unwanted stuff.. and purifies your extract
The trip is great!


i will have to give the butane blast a try, great write up. do you know if LSA's can be extracted using isopropyl alcohol and then evaporating the alcohol and water into a tar of some kind? i have read that it does and does not so i am unsure.



No water at all can be used during the extraction process...

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 07:39 PM

No water at all can be used during the extraction process...

even 99% isopropyl contains enough water to effect the extraction?

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 09:54 PM

95% or better alcohol..
IPA or enthanol for the extraction
anything below 95% alcohol will not cut it

ACS Lab Grade 200 Proof Dry Enthanol Alcohol is the best for this!!

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Posted 22 May 2007 - 08:16 AM

Awesome, haven't seen anything like this before.

Sorry for being off topic but...

Do you know any easy (without lab equip.) ways to concentrate IPA? The pharmacies around my friend's house only sells up to 70%.

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Posted 22 May 2007 - 11:18 AM

you could distill it...pretty dangerous..

Just order it online the 200 proof enthanol its well worth the wait and 15$....

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Posted 22 May 2007 - 12:56 PM

Awesome, haven't seen anything like this before.

Sorry for being off topic but...

Do you know any easy (without lab equip.) ways to concentrate IPA? The pharmacies around my friend's house only sells up to 70%.


the pharmacies around me only sell 70% as well, I get 99% at a supermarket.

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Posted 22 May 2007 - 07:12 PM

what are the doses for lsa?




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