Posted 22 May 2007 - 02:07 PM
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Posted 22 May 2007 - 09:00 PM
Posted 22 May 2007 - 09:51 PM
9 out of 10 times, Lysol does nothing. That 10th time, you end up with 13 upside down blooming shrooms. Or something weirder. Fungi metabolism is so damned fast, they can change one hell of a lot in a very short period of time. My FOAF got some drastic results just playing with humidity and fresh air flow. Lysol and/or petroleum oils can make for some slap ass weird looking fruit.
Lysol is also toxic to any cats/birds/reptiles sharing your home. Stay away from phenolic based disinfectants, IMHO. Oust for the air and bleach for the surfaces will work better and be safer for you (and your fungi) in the long run. Straight assed opinion stuff there...
Eating the mutants is up to you, but my FOAF has found that they work just fine and dandy...perhaps a tad better when you add the placebo of "I'm eating a mutated fungus - what else might it do????"
And man, I don't wanna be comin' off all Yoda "I've seen it all, it's nothing new" 'cause every mutation is unique. TCO had one that looked like it had a friggin' mouth coming off of it! I guarantee you, that dude has seen way weirder shit than both of us combined!
Hey, by the way 'da Jesus, diggin that frickin' "ball scrubber" avater, dude. GOOD STUFF, MAN!
Posted 22 May 2007 - 09:59 PM
I may just have to switch to Oust, I haven't gone wrong with the teachings from the Bonzai Institute yet. :loveeyes:
Posted 22 May 2007 - 11:02 PM
Seriously, I remember when you was just a polite dude with good questions, coming up (as was I, myself, not that long ago).
Now you be all moderatin' and doin' logs and shiznat!
Top notch work, man. Really respectable stuff.
Ya make me feel good about contributing, man, 'cause ya make me feel like I might have had a tiny part in teaching you something that I think is pretty important. Something that others really stretched to teach me, 'cause they thought it was pretty important.
And you, now, are teaching others.
Life is pretty fucking cool, man. Thanks for a little reminder of that!
Posted 23 May 2007 - 10:09 AM
Posted 23 May 2007 - 08:13 PM
Now this is really getting to me, take a look at these pics of some PE I have in the same terrarium. It looks like it is time for a douching. This is now officially not a fluke and obviously a procedural thing. What gets my goat is this grows sole purpose was to replenish my print stash and that was my last PE. :eusa_booh
Posted 24 May 2007 - 08:02 AM
Posted 24 May 2007 - 08:05 AM
to my eye
that looks much more like verticillium than anything else mentioned,
all the symptoms are there,
the blobs, the bent-over cap.
that was NOT caused by lysol.
i would NOT clone such infected fruitbodies -
nor would i take any prints .
Posted 24 May 2007 - 09:16 AM
Still, if those white ones hadn't fallen off, vert or no vert, I would have worked with them a little.
Posted 24 May 2007 - 09:31 AM
or at least, to re-phrase that more accurately,
it seems likely that some strains are exceptionally prone to succumbing to verticillium ,
both the PE and the KSSS are example of that.
dig into the vaults by following the glossary links on verticillium
to find several examples of both.
Posted 24 May 2007 - 09:50 AM
Posted 24 May 2007 - 10:18 AM
Posted 24 May 2007 - 10:33 AM
in both strains is a
lack of immunity
that genetic immune system weakness
via spores onto offspring,
but not the verticillium itself
which would be from the environment.
once environmental verticillium finds
the weakened strains
it can strike with a vengeance.
that would explain the available evidence, imo.
Posted 24 May 2007 - 10:55 AM