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#41 tobynutz

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 12:59 AM

my wbs is soaking right now. we shall see how i do. im also cooking a bunch of pf jars right now. i filled a 2 gallon bucket with brf and verm/water and made myself some jars haha

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 11:34 PM

one thing i would add to this that i laid the grain out on a window screen on top of a big rubbermaid lid overnight. i always had moisture problems when i did wbs they came out soggy as shit. my first run came out perfect and im doing another right now.

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 04:48 PM

here they are. plus more coming tonight. i think i will do some with multispre and the rest i will do with the multispore LC that colonizing right now. i wanna do some rye as well. if i can only stop being lazy and pick some up lol. i need more WBS too. ive already gone through 20lbs with this tek :)

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#44 camMyco

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 05:24 PM

Laz. are you covering the jars with foil before you PC, and are you knocking the jars through the Polyfil? Is that your injection point or is there another port on the lid?

#45 Lazlo

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 05:49 PM

I never cover the lids with foil and don't have problems with moisture getting in during the pressure cooking run. Putting on the foil certainly is a good safety precaution though. I just don't need to myself.

I do inoculate through the polyfil plug in the lids when messing with liquid inoculants.

#46 Lazlo

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 05:53 PM

here they are. plus more coming tonight. i think i will do some with multispre and the rest i will do with the multispore LC that colonizing right now. i wanna do some rye as well. if i can only stop being lazy and pick some up lol. i need more WBS too. ive already gone through 20lbs with this tek :)



Make sure to swirl the seed up a couple of times after cooking it. When the jars cool the seed will soak up moisture in the jars until they have completely cooled. During this time it's good to swirl the jars 2-3 times occasionally to disperse the moisture evenly. I did this even when soaking for 24 hours. When cooled down completely, the seed should show no signs of moisture on the hulls and none in the jars either. Good luck.

#47 Lazlo

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Posted 26 December 2007 - 10:17 AM

How's your grain working out Toby?

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 09:49 AM

Here's some more seed I did last night. I wanted to post a couple of better pics and times of what I do.

These 2 photos are at 20 minutes.
 

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Then I added more hot water and allowed the seed to set for another 2 hours or so. Until the seed soaked up that water and puffed up above the water.

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#49 Hippie3

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 10:12 AM

you need bigger pots eh.
should see my collection,
i could cook chili for 50 men at once.
:lol:

#50 Lazlo

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 10:34 AM

Hehehe. I do. I want to buy one of those large steamer pots for doing seed, but I keep forgetting.

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 10:50 PM

What do you mean by you don't case grains anymore do You just fruit the grain right away

#52 Lazlo

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 11:08 PM

I use it to spawn bulk substrate material.

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 09:45 AM

This is the tek that I have had the most success with, as well.

#54 dumbfounded1600

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 12:14 PM

FUCK POLYFILL! No polyfill, it will increase the chances of contamination. Polyfills thick which holds air in instead of giving atleast 3-6 FAE's per hour

#55 Hippie3

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 12:27 PM

lol
chill, no need to shout.
many use polyfil with no problems,
have for years.
just needs a little tweaking to get it right-
you're correct that a thick tightly packed wad won't pass static air
but a fan helps with that,
and using less polyfil, loosely packed will still filter but pass more air.
of course some prefer tyvek, others just use unfiltered holes,
i'm growing fond of the 3M micropore tape on terrariums.
many ways to 'skin a cat', so to speak.
to each, his own.

#56 fedshtkpndrk

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 01:21 PM

Damn Laz, im running out of room due to this tek:bow:. Im eyeing some stock pots and some more colanders at wally's every visit. Thanks again buddy :thumbup:

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#57 dumbfounded1600

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 12:10 AM

lol
chill, no need to shout.
many use polyfil with no problems,
have for years.
just needs a little tweaking to get it right-
you're correct that a thick tightly packed wad won't pass static air
but a fan helps with that,
and using less polyfil, loosely packed will still filter but pass more air.
of course some prefer tyvek, others just use unfiltered holes,
i'm growing fond of the 3M micropore tape on terrariums.
many ways to 'skin a cat', so to speak.
to each, his own.


I agree Hippie3....if you get the thickness right on polyfill it could work :D...A Fan?....Micropore tape FTW!....

#58 Lazlo

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 12:13 AM

I've used polyfil for years and love it. I even re-use the same polyfil plugs numerous times until they're really nasty or rust starts to clog them up.

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 12:43 AM

Lazlo,

Since a quart is 4 cups by volume, can't you just measure out 2 cups per jar to begin with?

Sorry, I missed page two- you answered my questions already. New job, lack of sleep. Forgive me.


BTW, DAMN fine write-up!

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#60 antimatt3r

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 07:04 AM

you get wbs with corn in it? and you leave the sunflower seeds too?

what about soaking overnight to germinate the bacterial endospores that pressure cooking alone cant get?




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