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#1 GoVols

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 05:45 PM

I have never used Rye berries before. I have used corn, and wbs. There are things I dislike about both of those so Im going to try Rye.

The only thing is I cant seem to find anything as to how far 1lb will go.

I want to buy enough for 12 qt jars. How many pounds will it take to accomplish this?

I plan on using 1 cup of Rye Berries, and 2/3 cups water per qt jar, then PCing that for an hour or so and knocking up with that sweet ass potato lc I saw on here a while back.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 06:37 PM

i get over 12 pint jars done with a pound, with rye berries left over. 2 lbs did 24 jars, and looks like i can do another 12. hope that helps.

#3 GoVols

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 06:46 PM

Yea that helps a lot. What is your preperation tek?

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 06:47 PM

will rye grass seed work. That is what I have going along with Some whole brown rice and some brf. It should work since cubies love grains and technically a grass seed is a grain right?:mistrust:

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 06:50 PM

Yea that helps a lot. What is your preparation tek?


I soak the rye berries in water for approx 24 hours then simmer in a pot for about 20 mintues..or until they are Al' Dente' (don't let the berries burst)

Let them sit out on a towel until surface dry then put in jars and PC at 15 PSI for 75 minutes..Thats the tek I use and it hasn't failed me yet.

let cool and noc' em up

#6 GoVols

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 06:52 PM

I soak the rye berries in water for approx 24 hours then simmer in a pot for about 20 mintues..or until they are Al' Dente' (don't let the berries burst)

Let them sit out on a towel until surface dry then put in jars and PC at 15 PSI for 75 minutes..Thats the tek I use and it hasn't failed me yet.

let cool and noc' em up



So you dont reccomend hydration/sterilization in one step (putting grain and water in jar at the same time)

Man I knew that sounded too easy to be true

#7 chimp

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 07:00 PM

So you dont reccomend hydration/sterilization in one step (putting grain and water in jar at the same time)

Man I knew that sounded too easy to be true


I have seen some posts of people doing it that way...

Maybe the way I do it is a little more work...but it always works. Sometimes the easier softer way isn't always the best way IMO.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 07:14 PM

mine seemed to burn the seeds if i didnt allow some presoak, even a couple hours was helpful.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 07:37 PM

I too have tried the 1 step PC/Hydrate as well once. I couldnt get the water ratio right and those berries aint free. But the 24 hours of soaking is supposed to germinate endospores into a easily killable state in the pc.

I do have a question though: What happens if some of the berries bust upon soaking? I generally do a boil for 20 min then soak for 24 hrs.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 07:39 PM

never had any bust, sorry

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 07:42 PM

If the berries burst it gets messy when laying out to dry..From what I know soaking them first to get the endo spores to "hatch" and then simmering is a more efficient method for prepping the grain for sterilization. I have never heard of simmering and then soaking. To each their own I guess..as long as it works for you.

#12 crazy1

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 07:43 PM

I've had great success with 1 step Rye berries and water being PCd. I used 1/2 gal jars and I put 480gms of Rye and 400ml water. As soon as I can handle them I shake them and mix the drier seeds on the top into the well hydrated ones. I've done this for a long time with out a problem.

#13 PsilocibeJuggalo

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 08:33 PM

Anyone try ryegrass seed? It should work for pf right since cubies are grain lovers and it is a type of grain????:amazed::eusa_booh

#14 greenweanie

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 09:04 PM

Juggalo, u might get better luck starting a new topic, since most people havent replied to it in here, usually meaning no experience with it. good luck on finding ur answer, wish i coulda been some help

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 09:15 PM


Juggalo, u might get better luck starting a new topic, since most people havent replied to it in here, usually meaning no experience with it. good luck on finding ur answer, wish i coulda been some help


likewise, I would love to help but I haven't tried that.

#16 Hippie3

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 09:41 PM

Anyone try ryegrass seed? It should work for pf right since cubies are grain lovers and it is a type of grain????:amazed::eusa_booh

cubes are dung lovers
grass seed works ok
but needs less water/soak-simmer time

#17 greenweanie

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 09:43 PM

thanks hippie for steppin up. now we all know :)

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 10:03 PM

rye berries are pretty easily done with the one pressure cook method
The soak and simmer method is probably the better way to go, but
you can definitely (if you are pinched for time) do the one step thing.
I'd recommend washing the dirt and grime off the berries first. That will
keep them from sticking together too much which makes it hard to
break them apart after the PC'ing. It's actually pretty easy to tell how
much water to add to the berries even if they are wet; simply add enough
water so that the water line is about an 1/8 inch above the berries or about
3.5 mm. Now thats NON soaked berries, just rinsed ones. I'm just
speaking in terms of the all-in-one PC'ing. the one downfall of the all
in-one thing is that the top half of the berries won't be as hydrated as
the bottom half and you will get a couple few burst berries usually, but
as long as you shake the jar after the PC cools that will mix the berries
up nicely and the jar will finish out just fine. It's actually realllly damn
fast and saves you a day of soaking and simmering. be sure to wipe
the rim of the jar clean too before you put the lid on, I think a lot of people
forget that and then their jar goes bad and they don't know why. But like
I said the soak and simmer is usually the way to go but if you decide you
like doing rye, you may want to give the one shot thing a go to see
how that fairs ya.

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#19 Hippie3

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 10:15 PM

the way to do 1 step rye
add 1 cup well-rinsed/drained rye berries
add 2/3 cup water
place in pc immediately
go 90 minutes at 15 psi
shake up good
once cool enough to touch/handle

#20 PsilocibeJuggalo

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 05:04 AM

Thanks hippie, where do you get rye berries locally. health store?




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