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#61 Hippie3

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Posted 08 August 2007 - 05:59 PM

the high CO2 sure makes for long skinny shrooms
plenty of them

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 07:11 AM

press n seal vs saran wrap

this is only a side by side
comparison of 4 chambers.
two saran wrap lids, two press
n seal. this was the first run using this press n seal.

with a side by side comparison
of no fanning. im finding that
i have to open the press n
seal more than i would like.
in some chambers, the fruiting
isn't consistent. i have a few
tests running side by side of
saran wrap and press n seal.
the saran wrap chambers after
2nd flush are showing healthy,
vigorous signs of growth. the
press n seal lids, are showing
signs of c02 buildup. in the
picture above the 2nd box
was tilted most of the week
opposed to 4 hours with saran
wrap lids.
all the pins are pointing
straight at the camera. this is bc of the
tilt. however, i do agree with
you hip. i can see where i am
having problems now. the saran
wrap is a bit more open and
seems to allow the breathing
a bit more. i have some monster
12" tall fruits using the saran wrap
and the press n seal is constantly
causing me to tilt and open the
corners of the chambers. in
comparison the fruits were dense
but much smaller than normal.
you have a good observation.
the saran wrap fruits are healthy,
giant, meaty, and look incredible.
the press n seal fruits are much
smaller, some of them arent'
opening completely, and you
can tell in the cap color on some
of the chambers. the caps are
staying orange rather than that
yellow-white beautiful gradient change.

i love the characteristics of
this press n seal to death. but
personally, i think the saran
wrap works better. the flushes look
healthier after many flushes. the
press and seal is becoming a bit
restrictive of what i am looking for.
its causing more maintenance
than necessary.

i believe this is the main reason.
when i place a double wide
strip of saran wrap over the bins.
there is a slight opening in the
middle between the two pieces.
i do not tape this. the saran
wrap doesn't stick very well to itself and thus seems to be open air.
it has a bit of a gap that is open air.

with the press n seal, it completely
closes. the moisture condensation on
the sides of the chamber is very
heavy. i tilted, i opened the corners
and after closing them again,
the levels have increased in a
matter of hours.

so i am looking at this from two directions.

do i want to fan? or do i want to
have an easier time with the lid?


to me, fanning is difficult, time
consuming, and most of the time,
i can't do it 3-5 times daily.
i would rather throw some tape on
the bin and not have to worry
about it. its all personal preference
though. but the saran wrap is
very loose on the tops of the bins
where the press n seal is air tight.
this is the problem and i don't
want to leave the corners open
to long and allow most of the moisture
to escape.

im sure there has been many more experiments using
this stuff but so far this is my first test run.

looking back at the first 3 pictures i posted on this
journal and at the last 3, i can see the difference.

all fruits mature regularly and the press n seal bins are stunting when
they break veil. the first pics have a more mature white-yellow color
and the later shots are mostly orange.

today, im most likely changing everything back to saran wrap.

well press n seal, it was fun while it lasted. kinda like a one night stand!

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Posted 11 August 2007 - 02:19 PM

just picked up a hair dryer today and did some hair dry fanning lol.....


nice...thanks for the tip hip and joystick!
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Posted 11 August 2007 - 08:55 PM

Eatyu, I understand about the fanning. I don't like or have time to fan.

I'm partial to an aquarium air pump put on a timer. Only way I'll ever provide air to my chambers, especially the dub tubs.

Thanks for providing the info and comparison on the saran wrap versus the press and seal.

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Posted 11 August 2007 - 09:28 PM

freaky, when i have a stable fruiting chamber that won't move i would use an aquarium air pump with a stone. but i move these bins so much and tilt them. in between flushes i wouldn't want to have to unhook everything and then put it all back in. i used to run a setup like that. but the entire bin is a substrate so i don't think that would work for me. the hair dryer is a great addition i believe. i can do it a few times a week. or just once a day isn't that bad. as long as i don't have to fan. im all about it. i don't consider it fanning when it takes two seconds lol.

no manual labor involved=me happy!:amazed::headbang:love the hairdryer dudes:headbang:

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 09:45 PM

fanned once with a hairdryer. these had solid light from one source. the other bin wasn't as fortunate, stems going all over the place. this run was probably only 4 days. it had pins already maturing by the 2nd day after the flood. looking healthier than 1st flush. these guys are going to be monsters soon..

This will conclude this grow log.

The End.

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Posted 14 August 2007 - 05:54 PM

ok...ok..seriously. last 3. thats it!

my rating in icon order-means nothing really just an observation. this is all based on me not wanting to fan. i can live with hairdryers once a week but the less maintenance the better.

:heartbeat saran wrap with box tape-same results as press n seal with hairdryer. this one wins bc you don't fan. but fanning once a week isn't that bad. its nice, simple addition.

:heartbeat press n seal with haidryer working awesome. just like the saran wrap

:eusa_wall press n seal alone needs fanning, tilting


i like the press n seal. as long as i fan with a hairdryer. otherwise i wouldn't use it alone unless there is more active air exchange going on.

downsides of saran wrap
1) have to use tape. sometimes have to retape them.
2) saran wrap doesn't stick to itself and is a bit of a pain at times.

upsides of saran wrap
1) no fanning. not one opening.
2) cheaper than press n seal
3) very adaptable


downsides of press n seal
1) have to fan
2) quick moisture buildup, quick co2 buildup
3) opaque. have to open to see in

upsides of press n seal
1) ease of use when sticking to anything
2) holds shape for lid well
3) airtight if this is what your looking for

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 01:47 PM

yield comparisons for the last 6 months have tazmanian in first place compared to creeper, treasure coast, pesh, ban thurian. fyi.

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 01:57 PM

I just noticed this but doctor i am scared of you now. your post was 666!


just a very strange co-incidence, but today his post count is 888.

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 02:02 PM

freaky. demon child lol...

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Posted 02 December 2007 - 02:40 AM

these tassies don't stop.
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tazmanian!
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them bad boys be growing like da devil, a tasmanian devil ;)

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