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#1 Lazlo

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 10:06 AM

Looks good huh? :cool:


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It came out perfect, just like it was pc'd.


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#2 Hippie3

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 10:11 AM

so far
so good.
let's see it colonize.
is that a fescue/mix ?
how much water was added to how much seed ?

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 10:37 AM

Right, just regular fescue mix. 1.5cups of seed to 3/4cup of water and a pinch of lime.

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 10:40 AM

What is fesue/fescue?

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 10:43 AM

Sorry, that was a type'o. It's fescue, not fesue. Hehe.

Fescue- grass with wide flat leaves cultivated in Europe and America for permanent pasture and hay and for lawns

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 10:44 AM

Its just a type of grass, good for heavy traffic if you have dogs or kids ;)
How long did you steam those jars Lazlo?

#7 Lazlo

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 10:47 AM

How long did you steam those jars Lazlo?



90 minutes.

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 03:02 PM

Sorry, this is rye mostly. I thought it was a fescue mix. :rolleyes:

Even if it were fescue, you would use the same ratio of water to seed. Same time for pc'ing as well. 60 minutes.

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 04:39 PM

For some reason when I've used 2:1 seed/water it comes out too dry. Didn't colonize worth a damn. Last time, I added a little extra water, about 2/3 cup, and the same Mex A spores have taken off and colonized really well.

Two different lots of seed came out dry. I'm hoping this third try comes out with some stones. I'll be watchint this thread, good stuff. Maybe I'll try a little soap in some grass seed, too, and just steam it.

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 06:27 PM

G'luck getting that stuff out of that regular mouthed jar after it colonizes.
I PC'd grass seed once, noc'd it up. It colonized well, but I just couldn't shake it hard enough to break it up. I had to use a butter knife to get it out.

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 08:34 PM

I've used grass seed quite a bit and have never had a problem with the ratio of water and seed.

I'd say that lime/gypsum in grass seed is nearly a must as well. Either of the 2 help tremendously to aid in the grains ability to separate. I use a tablespoon to get it out of the jars and don't have a single problem. The chunks that come out can be crushed up easily for spawning.

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 09:36 PM

thanks for this lazlo! gonna be looking for some grass seed soon :)
probably not that kind tho.. i hope it would work the same..

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 09:15 AM

I've done poo/verm/grain jars with grass seed, ala Waylit style. I was impressed overall, but noticed more dunking was necessary, ime. Just the same, I'm a fan. The formula had a very natural look and feel to it, fruited well, resisted contam- good results to the end.

#14 Hippie3

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 09:48 AM

http://mycotopia.net...seed-spawn.html

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 09:54 AM

I will have to try this tek. I have a bunch of jars with grass growing out of them and the ones that didn't were either too dry or too wet. No myc on any of them with the alcabenzi.

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 01:05 PM

Thanks for the link Hip. I missed that one.

Lazlo, I bet the shaking (lack of) is what messed me up. Although the one I did with extra water looks great. Time to make an LC with the last of the Mex.

Probably any grass seed would work fine. It's all about the same size etc., nutes probably don't vary much among breeds.

#17 Lazlo

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 05:10 PM

2 things to remember while doing grass seed in this manner are; always mix the seed, water and lime/gypsum up well in each jar before you sterilize them and make sure to shake the jars well after they've cooled down. Each individual seed should be separated from one another after pc'ing or steaming.

I just noticed that Golly steamed his bags also. So my jar should work out well with a 90 minute run. We'll see I guess.

This will be good for people without a pressure cooker. It will provide them a way to use a grain for spawn. Easily as well. If it works out that is. Heh

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 05:13 PM

Many thanks for the tips Lazlo. You've condensed the important points nicely. Looking forward to my first sample of stones!

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 01:55 AM

would this work the same way done on PC? would it require less time? like 60mins?

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 07:23 AM

would this work the same way done on PC? would it require less time? like 60mins?



Right, 60 minutes.




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