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#1 the jesus

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 02:52 PM

I remember seeing this a while back, but couldn't find the thread.

I have been using these big Ziploc plastic jars for spawn cakes, they take a while to colonize but half the work for twice the spawn is nice.

So I had two that I didn't need for spawn so I decided to try a little expirement. The size of them got me thinking that there would probably be some waste of nutrients in the middle if I just fruited them as cakes. So I decided to cut one of them up into 1/4" thick discs in the hopes of getting a better yield.

It's nice to have a good sharp knife for this. In this pic you can see the plastic Ziploc jars I spoke of.

http://mycotopia.net...95&d=1184182854


Here is the first disc

http://mycotopia.net...96&d=1184182854

Here is them all

http://mycotopia.net...97&d=1184182854

I gave them a super light double end casing because I only had fine verm which I don't really like for casings.

http://mycotopia.net...98&d=1184182877

I decided to kinda treat it like a crumbled casing since the myc probably needs to recover so I covered it as I would a casing and put it back into the incubator for a bit.

http://mycotopia.net...99&d=1184182877

You can't see them in the pic but there are a bunch of tiny holes in the top.

So thats it for now I am going to fruit the other one as a cake to see if there is any difference in yield. I am hoping more surface area will lead to more pins and they will take advantage of all the nutrients in this big ol' cake.

If anyone happens to have a link to the thread that I blatantly stole this idea from please post it so credit can go where it is due.

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#2 Hippie3

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 02:57 PM

there are a few similar teks around here
Mycotopia Web Archive: Patrick's Sliced Flat Cake Tek
Mycotopia Web Archive: OT's Wafer Tek

as well as other variants.
http://mycotopia.net...tek-edging.html
Mycotopia Web Archive: Eatyualive's Flat Cake Tek

my only criticism would be
i think the discs should be slightly thicker, ~1"
to support large shrooms.
but the concept itself is quite solid,
you should see a good pinset.
i also think
coir might have been good in the casing.
nicely illustrated!
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#3 the jesus

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 03:04 PM

Thanks Hip.

That OT's wafer tek link is the one I saw. I would love to see a pinset like that.

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 03:05 PM

yeah, thats a neat idea. I'd also be a little worried about the discs drying
out since they are so thin. might want to give em a thick under casing
that they can draw water from. excited to see how this works out.

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 03:07 PM

TJ....I actually sliced up one of the substrates in my sandbags after a first flush. Very similiar, the mycelium did recover and produce quite well. I've just been to busy to document any of it.

Way cool bro!!

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 03:13 PM

Mycotopia Web Archive: SOS Tek???

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 03:58 PM

How are you setting up those ziplock jars? I have tryed one that way and sorta liked it, I did a bad incolu and got contams. Did you use tyrek? Put holes in the lid? Anyone tried using that press and seal as a sealing layer?

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 04:02 PM

Knice Knife:bow:

#9 the jesus

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 04:06 PM

I just heated up a needle and pushed it through the top for the inoculation points. I used six around the outside and one in the middle because of their size. I like them a lot more than glass, they are a little pricey compared to glass but they seem like they are going to last forever.

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 09:06 PM

right on jesus
i just got some similar ones from walmart.. 925ml.. so you figure it's about 3.5 half pints (250ml). and at a price of $3 for 4.. that's 3.7L total space for $3.. as opposed to $10 for a 12 pack of 1/2 pint jars which is only 3L total space.
a good deal, imo, and you can steam them like your normal pf cakes, i did mine for 2 hours, more so b/c i'm lazy then any other reason.
i used about 7-8cc to innoculate it.. 6 holes around the outside and 3 in the middle.
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#11 mycobri

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 09:50 PM

nice experimentation :thumbup:
hope to see some fruits off those coin shaped-cake slices

what strain btw?

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 12:39 PM

good info to know.

#13 the jesus

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 05:28 PM

Update. I didn't get pics of the first flush but it came in at 16 grams dry. Not bad for one cake. Here are some pics of the second flush, the discs don't seem to want to flush at the same time, some are ready to harvest and some are just pinning. Overall I would say I am going to get much more out of this than if I had fruited it as one cake, and that is with less than stellar pinsets.



http://mycotopia.net...16&d=1185402188


http://mycotopia.net...19&d=1185402188


http://mycotopia.net...14&d=1185402188


http://mycotopia.net...17&d=1185402188

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#14 Hippie3

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 05:32 PM

very nicely shows the benefits
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Posted 25 July 2007 - 05:42 PM

Update. I didn't get pics of the first flush but it came in at 16 grams dry. Not bad for one cake.


Not bad at all. Foaf usually gets around 7g a cake and he was pretty proud of that. :(

good work :rasta:

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 06:09 PM

What's is that Mariachi song I hear.?.?.

Wait, it's Hotel California in Spanish!

You are a slick pimp DeJ.:bow:

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Posted 26 July 2007 - 08:58 AM

Not bad at all. Foaf usually gets around 7g a cake and he was pretty proud of that. :(

good work :rasta:


you shouldn't be sad about 7 g. a cake, reefer. This is a much larger cake.

nice job, jesus! did you dunk the disks for the second flush?

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#18 the jesus

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Posted 26 July 2007 - 09:13 AM

Yeah I dunked for 12 hours I was afraid they would fall apart going any longer, might try 24 hrs. between flushes 2 and 3.


This is a much larger cake.


It is just over a pint.

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Posted 26 July 2007 - 09:17 AM

Nicely done

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Posted 26 July 2007 - 08:20 PM

:cool:

Those caps are pretty!

Thats a nice yield, thanks for doing a grow log with this method.

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