
Cloning options
Started By
reverend trips
, Sep 28 2007 06:48 PM
9 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 28 September 2007 - 06:48 PM
Two quarts of rye spawn, inoculated with SA. spores were used to spawn these four straw nuggets. This was done because swim is looking for a nice clone to grow out on a larger straw project down the line.
http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1191022559
Tell me. Which one would you consider for a clone, and why?
Or
Would you wait for another flush or two and see if a nice big one pops up?
I want to hear what you all look for in a clone. I'll give you swims choice and why later...
http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1191022559
Tell me. Which one would you consider for a clone, and why?
Or
Would you wait for another flush or two and see if a nice big one pops up?
I want to hear what you all look for in a clone. I'll give you swims choice and why later...
#2
Posted 28 September 2007 - 07:57 PM
top right
but pix from different angles might better inform that decision
but pix from different angles might better inform that decision
#4
Posted 29 September 2007 - 12:28 PM
bottom right of the first posted pic,
reason for me...timing for most of the pins seem to be equal. Mostly even throughout with fewest/lessor percentage of aborts.
now rev, whats on you mind ol great one :teeth:
reason for me...timing for most of the pins seem to be equal. Mostly even throughout with fewest/lessor percentage of aborts.
now rev, whats on you mind ol great one :teeth:
#5
Posted 29 September 2007 - 01:30 PM
I like to select my isolates from later flushes. Fat daddies that just have this certain look to them.
#6
Posted 29 September 2007 - 08:05 PM
I'd go for one of the top left actually (in the first pic). I chose my clones/isolates from the largest & strongest looking shroom in the flush. But that's just me.
#7
Posted 30 September 2007 - 08:27 AM
Thanks for the replies!
My choices were made because:
1. I like cloning from a young fruit from the first flush. I like the first flush because the younger the myc is, the more vigorous it is, and it is also less likely to harbor any contams. It is hard not to look at a massive beautiful fruit from a third or fourth flush and want to clone it, but IME you won't see that trait again until that clone is grown out to the third or fourth flush again. I'm not sure why fruits from the later flushes get so big, but I always thought it was because the myc is weaker and damaged, and produces less fruits, so the fruits that do develop, can pig out on the remaining nutes and moisture. Not sure on that, but it makes sense to me.
2. I look at the individual fruit, without any consideration to the surrounding fruits. I personally have seen no advantage to select a fruit that is in a cluster, because some of the best clusters I've held in my hands came from clones of a stand alone fruit.
3. Like Crazy1, I like large, strong, and healthy looking fruits, and is why the one on the top left was chosen. It was given a squeeze test first to see if it was solid. If it felt like it had a hollow stem, it would have been ruled it out. The one on the bottom right was chosen, because you can just tell it is going to be a fatty.
My choices were made because:
1. I like cloning from a young fruit from the first flush. I like the first flush because the younger the myc is, the more vigorous it is, and it is also less likely to harbor any contams. It is hard not to look at a massive beautiful fruit from a third or fourth flush and want to clone it, but IME you won't see that trait again until that clone is grown out to the third or fourth flush again. I'm not sure why fruits from the later flushes get so big, but I always thought it was because the myc is weaker and damaged, and produces less fruits, so the fruits that do develop, can pig out on the remaining nutes and moisture. Not sure on that, but it makes sense to me.
2. I look at the individual fruit, without any consideration to the surrounding fruits. I personally have seen no advantage to select a fruit that is in a cluster, because some of the best clusters I've held in my hands came from clones of a stand alone fruit.
3. Like Crazy1, I like large, strong, and healthy looking fruits, and is why the one on the top left was chosen. It was given a squeeze test first to see if it was solid. If it felt like it had a hollow stem, it would have been ruled it out. The one on the bottom right was chosen, because you can just tell it is going to be a fatty.
#8
Posted 26 July 2008 - 10:07 AM
looks like a fine specimen to me. i think as you have less pins on later flushes. these pins have more access to nutrients that weren't available in earlier flushes until those fruits were removed. i could be wrong. often times, especially if your growing off bulk subs, you will have primordia maturing that were present during the first flush but couldn't compete with all the surrounding primordia. these guys will just pop up out of nowhere. then become very large as by the later flushes, have no competition.
man reverend, your threads blow me a way man. love your work!:bow::bow:
i sometimes like cloning a pin if its a head starter. one that beats the entire flush to fruit. sometimes you get that one fat pin that just tears through all the others... thats the one i like cloning. looks like thats the one you picked.
if i have multiple candidates and can only do one clone. i feel for which stem feels thicker or meatier if the two fruits are almost exact in comparison.
man reverend, your threads blow me a way man. love your work!:bow::bow:
i sometimes like cloning a pin if its a head starter. one that beats the entire flush to fruit. sometimes you get that one fat pin that just tears through all the others... thats the one i like cloning. looks like thats the one you picked.
if i have multiple candidates and can only do one clone. i feel for which stem feels thicker or meatier if the two fruits are almost exact in comparison.
#9
Posted 26 July 2008 - 01:24 PM
Thanks Eat's!
Ya, meaty fruits are also a lot easier to get tissue from.
For cross reference, this clone went on to grow these shrooms - http://mycotopia.net...sa-bigguns.html
Ya, meaty fruits are also a lot easier to get tissue from.
For cross reference, this clone went on to grow these shrooms - http://mycotopia.net...sa-bigguns.html
#10
Posted 26 July 2008 - 05:50 PM
hell yeah rt. excellent choice. forearm long, arm long, nah fug dat, footlong nope not that either....
my whole leg long lol....why grow em any smaller?
my whole leg long lol....why grow em any smaller?