Please listen! Turn it off now.
frustrated & a little pissed off
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tempest2003
, Apr 10 2005 06:11 PM
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Posted 10 April 2005 - 06:55 PM
i know im just mad i took it off, how do you keep the weight from moving? mine didnt come with instructions
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Posted 10 April 2005 - 06:56 PM
ebay has shit loads of quality pc's people are loosing for cheap
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Posted 10 April 2005 - 06:59 PM
lol this is crazy.
I remember a story not long ago where a pc exploded in a school cafeteria or some such shit.
For realy man dont use a cracked pc! The weight rattles relative to the pressure being pushed on it. At 15 psi it should rattle just baaaaarely. If its rattling like all hell than your pressure is tooo high.
I remember a story not long ago where a pc exploded in a school cafeteria or some such shit.
For realy man dont use a cracked pc! The weight rattles relative to the pressure being pushed on it. At 15 psi it should rattle just baaaaarely. If its rattling like all hell than your pressure is tooo high.
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Posted 10 April 2005 - 07:24 PM
I know Im gonna get jumped but I'd say its prolly just the seal, if its a rubber seal it most likely got too cooked and it just wont seal.
If its realy a crack , it wont ever build up pressure, if the crack is below the waterline it will empty the pot post haste.
when pc's "explode" it is the pressure release that blows out, I've seen this first hand and it is most definatly an explosive release to witness but it isnt the pot itself actualy turning into shards of metal and being thrown about the room.
Its 250 degree spoo going every where and all in one shot, out through a small hole, still a dangerous thing..
It could have gotten warped ant the seal doesnt fit though, but still that would vent the pressure which is a good thing, its when the venting doesn't happen that it gets pressure build up that may rupture the pot violently.
If it has a UL listing then the "boil dry scenario" has been thouroughly tested to be sure.
If you use it again and the leaking stops and the rocker is rocking then its ok, just get a new seal if it has one.
And turn down the heat till the rocker is just barely rocking.
We're only talking about 15ish psi here, your car tire has 30 to 50 psi and its rubber, the pc is metal.
Where's Mythbusters ?/////
If its realy a crack , it wont ever build up pressure, if the crack is below the waterline it will empty the pot post haste.
when pc's "explode" it is the pressure release that blows out, I've seen this first hand and it is most definatly an explosive release to witness but it isnt the pot itself actualy turning into shards of metal and being thrown about the room.
Its 250 degree spoo going every where and all in one shot, out through a small hole, still a dangerous thing..
It could have gotten warped ant the seal doesnt fit though, but still that would vent the pressure which is a good thing, its when the venting doesn't happen that it gets pressure build up that may rupture the pot violently.
If it has a UL listing then the "boil dry scenario" has been thouroughly tested to be sure.
If you use it again and the leaking stops and the rocker is rocking then its ok, just get a new seal if it has one.
And turn down the heat till the rocker is just barely rocking.
We're only talking about 15ish psi here, your car tire has 30 to 50 psi and its rubber, the pc is metal.
Where's Mythbusters ?/////
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Posted 10 April 2005 - 07:36 PM
you have to turn the heat down when it gets to 15 psi, not trying to be rude, but did you have the instruction manual that came with it and did you read it? If you get the chance on ebay, get a AA no.7 or something with a pressure valve as opposed to the weight, they are safer imo. because they do let out some pressure around 15 psi, but you have to turn the heat down even lower on those and watch em closer so that kinda sucks, too. Also, you can't let it steam too long before putting the weight on or all the water will evaporate - same if you don't close it tight enough and steam escapes. I know how you feel, I dropped my lid and broke the valve off, thought I'd have to get a new pc, fortunately for me I found I could replace that easily after searching for a deal for about a week or two. Ask your friends and family if they have one laying around, sometimes people do. The one I have I got for free, it was sitting outside my friends house for months.
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Posted 10 April 2005 - 07:41 PM
where's mythbusters - lol
yeah, All Americans don't have em. if it's not really cracked, you may have the same luck I did. :) but I would think any pressure release other than through control valve or around the weight is not good - it would mean you are not really at 15 psi and that water is leaving the pressure cooker too fast and will dry out causing the same problem again.
yeah, All Americans don't have em. if it's not really cracked, you may have the same luck I did. :) but I would think any pressure release other than through control valve or around the weight is not good - it would mean you are not really at 15 psi and that water is leaving the pressure cooker too fast and will dry out causing the same problem again.
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Posted 10 April 2005 - 08:57 PM
when the rocker starts rocking turn the heat down.. depending how much is in it determines how far you must turn it down... you want to get it to where it rocks every couple of seconds, normaly between 5.5 and 4 on my electric stove... if it is continualy rocking it will dry out very fast... i got a 18qt presto for $80 w/ shipping that has served me very well... sorry to hear about your PC man, that is a devistating loss to any myco-nut
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Posted 10 April 2005 - 09:34 PM
I have a silly question, I used to run a speedshop so I have a lot of equipment, could you mig or tig weld the crack? It couldn't be heat treated metal, so why not weld it back together?
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Posted 10 April 2005 - 09:42 PM
It's a pressure vessel. Never weld a pressure vessel unless you're a certified boilermaker. The whole tank would have to be put in a kiln and heated before welding. Anyway, for an AA pressure cooker, they will start hissing a pound or two before the weight rattles. Somewhere around 13 to 14 lbs, a steady hiss will begin. At this point, turn the heat down a bit. I try not to let the weight rattle much at all. When it does rattle, I turn down the stove. If you can get a steady release of steam, with no rattling, you can pc for hours with very little water escape. Sorry about your loss.
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Posted 10 April 2005 - 10:49 PM
my friend tries to get her pc to rattle a few times a minute, once every 15 seconds or more if she can help it.
sorry to hear about your loss with the PC, but toss it and get a new one. its better to be safe and have no jars, then to be in the hospital with sterilized jars.
ebay and thriftshops. both work great
good luck
sorry to hear about your loss with the PC, but toss it and get a new one. its better to be safe and have no jars, then to be in the hospital with sterilized jars.
ebay and thriftshops. both work great
good luck
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Posted 11 April 2005 - 12:18 AM
lol yea, guess ill call this one a loss, thanks guys
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Posted 11 April 2005 - 07:06 AM
lol yea, guess ill call this one a loss, thanks guys
Go buy the identical one, put ther bad one in the box and return it?
Is this unethical? I do i tall the time with other shit, it is easier than trying to return things the normal way.
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Posted 11 April 2005 - 07:25 AM
unethical? depends on where you got it? I would fuck walmart in the ear ten times a week if possible (I try not to shop there), the company brass are irreverent money-grubbing pimps trying to sell our country to china and their prices will always be low, but I would only make love to the All American Manufacturing Co. What sucks is Walmart would still make money off the deal anyway. Of course if you break something and its your fault then blaming it on craftmanship or poor quality control is wrong, if everyone did this prices would go up or good companies would close.
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Posted 11 April 2005 - 07:37 AM
"Is this unethical?"
Absolutely, positively, no question in my mind would that be considered unethical. Rationalize it however you want, Evil Empire or whatever, but it's theft. I hate Wal-Mart, fuck 'em in the ass, but do what you do and be honest with it, not rationalizing it - in fact, by rationalizing it, you prove the point, for if it was a noble action why would it have to be rationalized?
That having been said Wal Mart goes through PILES of stuff every day that is broken and returned - some breaks in-store, other people will drive home to find a cracked egg and return the whole dozen. It all just gets filed and shipped. I've seen gallons of milk sit in carts for days. While I no longer wonder why the place smells I do wonder why the employees don't get this crap out of here. When you're getting paid dogshit it's hard to motivate you to work, I'm guessing. Just wait until they finish with their nanotechnology (speedy unmanned checkouts; very cool) and only need to employ 1/2 the workforce - watch Wal Mart cause a fuckin' depression.
BOTTOM LINE
Unethical? Yes.
Immoral? Maybe.
Evil? Not compared to their asses.
Back to rationalizations - lol
Absolutely, positively, no question in my mind would that be considered unethical. Rationalize it however you want, Evil Empire or whatever, but it's theft. I hate Wal-Mart, fuck 'em in the ass, but do what you do and be honest with it, not rationalizing it - in fact, by rationalizing it, you prove the point, for if it was a noble action why would it have to be rationalized?
That having been said Wal Mart goes through PILES of stuff every day that is broken and returned - some breaks in-store, other people will drive home to find a cracked egg and return the whole dozen. It all just gets filed and shipped. I've seen gallons of milk sit in carts for days. While I no longer wonder why the place smells I do wonder why the employees don't get this crap out of here. When you're getting paid dogshit it's hard to motivate you to work, I'm guessing. Just wait until they finish with their nanotechnology (speedy unmanned checkouts; very cool) and only need to employ 1/2 the workforce - watch Wal Mart cause a fuckin' depression.
BOTTOM LINE
Unethical? Yes.
Immoral? Maybe.
Evil? Not compared to their asses.
Back to rationalizations - lol
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Posted 11 April 2005 - 08:01 AM
I am making no attempt to rationalize...
"I am unethical and that's... OK"
"I am unethical and that's... OK"
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Posted 11 April 2005 - 08:55 AM
it may be hard to bring back a pc that has a tint to it from cooking with no water.
lol i just pictured the whole bottom burnt up like a piece of coal. and you bring it back, and say, "yeah um. something was wrong with my pc when i opened the box"
lol i just pictured the whole bottom burnt up like a piece of coal. and you bring it back, and say, "yeah um. something was wrong with my pc when i opened the box"
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Posted 11 April 2005 - 09:06 AM
it may be hard to bring back a pc that has a tint to it from cooking with no water.
lol i just pictured the whole bottom burnt up like a piece of coal. and you bring it back, and say, "yeah um. something was wrong with my pc when i opened the box"
You do make a valid point.
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Posted 11 April 2005 - 10:49 PM
Its 250 degree spoo going every where and all in one shot, out through a small hole, still a dangerous thing..
Reminds me of watching TLC's baby birthing shows. Baby pops out and everything else spews out with it.
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Posted 12 April 2005 - 12:45 PM
Bad memories... I watched one of these things blow up at a friend's house when I was 8 years old.
Never going to forget it.
The bottom blew out and shot the PC straight through the kitchen ceiling. It actually broke through the second story's floor, leaving a nice mold of the PC in the carpet. Fortunately, there were no jars inside when this happened. It would have made some wonderful glass schrapnel if there were jars inside.
This is why my first and only PC is the All American 921.
I do not intend to witness two pressure cooker explosions.
Never going to forget it.
The bottom blew out and shot the PC straight through the kitchen ceiling. It actually broke through the second story's floor, leaving a nice mold of the PC in the carpet. Fortunately, there were no jars inside when this happened. It would have made some wonderful glass schrapnel if there were jars inside.
This is why my first and only PC is the All American 921.
I do not intend to witness two pressure cooker explosions.
