BULK GROW GONE BAD! Please Help :(
Posted 12 April 2005 - 07:52 AM
This is my 1st time posting. A friend of mine, JD, recently attempted his first grow op. Ignoring conventional wisdom he decided to go big his first time and make 5 large poo/straw bins. Everything was going fine until he cased them. After a short time nice white mycelium was poking through ( see pic before2.jpg). The next day it was all gone. He peeled back to the casing a little to see what was up (see picture aafter2.jpg)and saw that the mycelium was still white below but it was not fluffy, it was damp and almost dank but still white. For several days the mycelium has not returned to the top layer. Do you think that perhaps recasing will help regrow the mycelium? It looks to me like the bins have burn out but i'm not an expert
Another problem hes been having is that lots of mushies seem to be growing off of the sides of the bin ( http://photobucket.c...ent=MUSHBIN.jpg ). Sometimes two or 3 inches up from the casing sometimes as much as 6 inches. Is this normal? why would the fungus grow on teh sides and not on the base? Some of the mushies on the side of the bin are getting to be 3-4 inches, its just nuts
There are some pix posted here http://photobucket.c...143/EZSkanking/
I will take more tonight when my friend is misting.
Thanks for you input
Posted 12 April 2005 - 08:23 AM
perhaps condensation is dripping onto your casing ?
Posted 12 April 2005 - 09:45 AM
might also want to tell your friend to chop that straw next time.. peices of straw shouldn't be more then 3in or so in length, the larger the peices the longer it takes to colonize
just wondering but why did your friend take a huge chunk out of one of the bins?
also. welcome aboard :)
Posted 12 April 2005 - 10:09 AM
Yeah it is a bit wet, do you think just leaving it uncovered would help? Hes already taken the lids off the bins and put them in unsealed garbage bags.
JD had to cut out that huge chunk for 2 reasons. One, he was constantly having problems with cobweb in that one area and he just got pissed off one day and said FUCK IT, i'mma cut this shit out. Secondly, he wanted to be able to get an accurate gauge of how wet the bottom layers were compared to the top.
Thanks for the warm welcome!
Posted 14 April 2005 - 06:50 AM
Yeah it is a bit wet, do you think just leaving it uncovered would help?
for a few days
but keep a close eye
Posted 14 April 2005 - 08:05 AM
i think its rad how the mushrooms started to sprout up on the side of the wall where the myc ran.
Posted 14 April 2005 - 08:52 AM
BTW, to stop the shrooms growing on the sides, wipe them clean after you've cased :)
Posted 14 April 2005 - 10:04 PM
First of all he had good intentions in his set up but it was doomed to fail. Last year he grew large quantities of hydroponically grown pot in a giant grow box he built in his basement. He figured this would be the perfect environment to place his bins until they were ready to fruit.
He set up a space heater in the box to make sure his bins were at the right temp. However, the bins often were receiving too much heat and he started having problems with cobweb and dryout/burnout. He ultimately decided to turn off the heater and let the bins fruit at room temp c. 71 ( a little cool but its the best he can do)
After I posted his situation on the board last time he started putting his bins under light for 6-8 hours a day and is making sure they don't receive too much light or water. Low and behold hes starting to see some sparse flushing! THANK GOD!!
2 bins of Australian seem to be doing well and one GC. However, his BHT is still kind of worrisome.
What do you recommend for air transfer? Hes just been wafting out the air every few hours. He has access to air pumps from his last op if need be. Also, has anyone else experienced this kind of sparse flushing? A few new pins pop up every 3 or 4 days in different areas. Alot of the first ones are also growing more horizontal than parallel, i have a feeling htis is because they weren't getting enough light.
Posted 14 April 2005 - 10:33 PM
it makes me nervous
pinning problems could be from lack of light i assume. and growing sideways could be from lack of light also. as it may be growing towards a reflection of light etc.
the contams could be from not fanning enough. a few wafts arent enough for a big bin, it needs a nice fanning a few times a day at least.
maybe the poor fruiting was from a weak substrain? 71 degrees is fine for fruiting imo. maybe a degree or two low, but not anything major.
Posted 15 April 2005 - 11:14 PM
this fruit in particular has some wierd striations on the side and it was brittle, almost broke when he picked it. Any ideas? I'm guessing moisture but everything seems to be moist enough...
also i got rid of the heater. :)
Posted 16 April 2005 - 05:02 PM
that shroom appears pretty normal
Posted 16 April 2005 - 05:14 PM
Graphing calc's are very big...That thing must be 60+ grams or something?
Posted 16 April 2005 - 09:31 PM
How many hours a day of light should the bins receive? Hes been doing about 12 and 12 but i've heard that 24/7 is cool too. How much should he mist?
Hopefully i'll get him to take some more pics tomorrow :)
Posted 16 April 2005 - 09:49 PM
it makes me nervous"
LMAO! Thats what I was thinkin. That thing is just screaming "fire hazard".
I've seen a lot of people say that 24/7 light is fine but I've had better success using between 6 and 18 hours a day of light.
Posted 17 April 2005 - 07:48 AM
just brief exposure to bright light on a daily basis
24 hour light is harmless
and there is NO evidence that light affects growth
other than to orient the shrooms' direction of growth.
Posted 17 April 2005 - 04:29 PM
Posted 17 April 2005 - 06:36 PM