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#41 Guest_redmonk_*

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Posted 22 November 2004 - 04:12 PM

Yes , for quite awhile......probably months in an airtight jar . However , if you only drink half , you probably won't feel much .

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Posted 22 November 2004 - 04:23 PM

I tried 10 grams of caapi and felt real good,so I touch 15 would be a good start...
Do you think I should drink all of it ?


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Posted 22 November 2004 - 08:16 PM

Well , you could start out with 15 g and drink more after an hour or so , if needed .

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 01:02 AM

yeah my voite is just GO FOR IT! YEAH!

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 07:42 AM

30 grams of Viridis and 30gr. of Caapi.
that's 1 dose, imo

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 09:30 AM

I think you should gradually increase till you like what you feel Posted Image

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 12:49 PM

So,maybe I'll take 30 grams of caapi first.
Then after a half hour or so, I will take 15 grams of viridis... a hour later another 15 grams.
Is this what you recommend for a first time user (ayahuasca that is..) ?


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Posted 23 November 2004 - 03:47 PM

That sounds like a good plan . Good luck !

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Posted 24 November 2004 - 10:50 PM

"So,maybe I'll take 30 grams of caapi first.
Then after a half hour or so, I will take 15 grams of viridis... a hour later another 15 grams.
Is this what you recommend for a first time user (ayahuasca that is..) ? "

Take it all together. There is no need to drink the Caapi seperate. 15g of Chacruna is not enough.

It is always best to make a double dose. Something like 60g Chacruna and 60 to 80g Caapi. Dink 1/2 of the resulting extract. After 3 or 4 hours drinking you can drink the rest. Most of the time the second dose gives the best experiance from my experiance.



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Posted 24 November 2004 - 11:06 PM

THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT! yes space cake its all about the heroic doses. no pressure. but GOD! the high doses are always better. i say to much is better than to little. and 30 and 30 isnt really a big does but at least its a dose right?

who am I kidding I havent even done it yet... damn mormons and their puritan kitchen...

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Posted 24 November 2004 - 11:15 PM

LOL! Thats not a heroic dose, thats a regular dose.

I usualy do 2 dose on the night I dream. 45g Chacruna, and 60 g Caapi, per dose.

You have to work yourself up to this. Sometimes I even add 10 g chalaponga or few leaves of N. rustica if I am in need of a powerfull purge.

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Posted 25 November 2004 - 07:51 AM

always best to make a double dose.
good advise there,
helps avoid the unhappiness associated with a dud

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Posted 25 November 2004 - 01:22 PM

To late to make more...
But I'll think I still take de caapi first because it makes me calm (anti depressant) !
I noticed this, when I drank 10 grams of Caapi as an experiment...
I'm always a little bit nervous when I try something new !
Still.. there is some Caapi/Viridis left for a second try on Christmas,if it turns out to be a dud !


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Posted 27 November 2004 - 08:08 AM

a second try on Christmas
good luck

#55 Guest_ferry_*

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Posted 27 November 2004 - 01:01 PM

Well... it's been 1 1/2 hours after I drunk my home made brew !
AND I DON"T FEEL NOTHING !!!
The Caapi I used was 7 month old ..so I think it doesn't have any alkoloids left !
To bad,I'm only a little bit nauseous !
So best thing to do now..is to order some fresh Caapi and try again !
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Posted 27 November 2004 - 05:47 PM

Caapi is the best choice for MAOI
Prepare 80 - 100 g of Caapi per person
It's better to have more caapi then not enough.
This is what allows the actives to take affect,
Prepare half your body weight in cappi.

Psychotria is not an easy plant.
It comes on differently than Mimosa.
Despite the same presumed active molecules.
There is a difference, I don't know why.
Mimosa is always there when you drink it.
Even as little as 2.5 grams can be felt and used to slightly dream,
while with Psychotria, sometimes the usual starter's dose (30gr)
is not felt at all, as if there were absolutely nothing in it.
That's why I suggest either you start with 50 grams psychotria, or about 8 grams Mimosa. The latter is also easier to prepare because of the lesser amounts of powder and water to deal with.

also.. I can give you a trick or two:
eat only rice, fish and plantains for three days before your session. Don't drink alcohol for two or three weeks before your session... It will not increase the effects, but it will increase your awareness, your capacity to keep calm when the visions come and to see more clearly whatever comes to you.
(thanks to LilMerlin)

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Posted 28 November 2004 - 06:41 AM

Next time I will try 80 grams of Caapi and 50 grams of Viridis as you mensioned !

I did fast for one day, but the day before I did eat some 'thc butter' ! .. maybe that was a big mistake ?!

Cabrerana is also in my possesion.. do you think I should try to ad some of this to my brew ?



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Posted 29 November 2004 - 03:53 PM

Has anybody done the Ayahuasca HCI extraction ?
Is it worth it ?
Do you really get more of the good stuff out of your plant materials ? Posted Image

#59 Guest_tehutiroo_*

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Posted 29 November 2004 - 06:18 PM

As far as I know there is no advantage.

#60 psilovia

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Posted 29 November 2004 - 11:00 PM

I would guess the only advantage is less material to work with, if you use HCl you probably have to make it evaporate completely and have less to get sick on...




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