Posted 07 November 2007 - 08:47 PM
An alcohol extract
It is questionable whether or not you can consider these actual opium though. The only way to get the real deal is with fresh pods. There is the freeze tek also which is in the goo thread.
After some experimenting I have come up with a new method to obtain a smokeable product from tea. Or rather, how to extract opium from pods either fresh or dry.
1. Take pods, dried or fresh, and freeze them
2. Add 4 parts water for each 1 part pod material into a blender and grind it up good
3. Pour it over in a mug or similar, stirr it well for some minutes, then let it sit for about 1 hour in room temp.
4. strain it to discard the biggest chunks, use a strainer with fairly big holes.
5. Fill the upper brown and most clear layer over into a bottle, let the rest stay in the mug
6. Extract the goo and particles left in the mug with more water, like was done with the pods in step 2 and 3.
7. strain and pour this solution also over into the bottle
8. Shake bottle and put in a freezer (Dont cap the bottle, could explode if pressure expands it while freezing)
9. When half the solution in the bottle has frozen filtrate it with a cloth (t-shirts work fine) and discard the ice.
10. Put the solution back into bottle, shake it well, freeze it down again like in step 8 and 9.
11. Take this second filtrated solution and evaporate it in a pot placed in a larger pot with cooking water (warm bath)
12. The brown substance left in the smaller pot when evaporated, sometimes a bit like mexican tar, can be smoked.
This type of Morphine salt extracted with this method is highly soluble in cold water
No need for any acidic chemicals in the process, no ascorbic acid, lemon juice, etc. This makes it less soluble.
The morphine stays in the water, the junk in the ice that you discard.
Posted 07 November 2007 - 10:24 PM
Posted 08 November 2007 - 04:58 AM
Posted 08 November 2007 - 07:55 AM
Posted 10 November 2007 - 12:43 PM
I can concur with the idea that the alkaloids are easily extracted in plain cold water..
The frozen waste ,when re-melted looks exactly the same as the "good" stuff .I'm going to evap that portion down too and test for actives . I suspect it will have some goodies.
I vaporized the Tar and it is producing a nice head buzz ,a bit stronger than the previous alcohol extract i made..
The flavour is sweeter too , kinda like Molasses...:smokin:
Posted 11 November 2007 - 06:54 PM
so he recons a straight cold water extract for a day or 2 could yield something decent. but i dunno.
its hard to trust his judgement cause he was eating pods for like 5 days in a row, and lots too, so he prolly had a high tollerance at the time of smoking:eusa_booh
now he does like opiates now, he said he was moaning in bed an hour after his second glass of tea totaling like 3 small pods made to tea, then 2 were eaten of the 3 in the tea, then 2 were added and tea was made again. after this he was moaning in bed for a few hours like he was making love to some ghost......then he woke up and was high all the next day
it seems tollerance builds up fast,,,, he cant get this first feeling back again so hes abstaining like a catholic school girl with a chastic belt