Posted 18 October 2006 - 11:23 AM
Posted 18 October 2006 - 11:53 AM
Whatever. Why ask why.
Posted 18 October 2006 - 03:12 PM
Posted 18 October 2006 - 03:33 PM
Posted 20 October 2006 - 08:36 PM
now it can be discussed properly here.
Posted 20 October 2006 - 09:24 PM
just because you use 'bulk' does not mean you grow in bulk if you get my meaning
Posted 20 October 2006 - 09:34 PM
Posted 20 October 2006 - 09:38 PM
"140ml of liquid culture was injected in spawn bags containing a
1:1 mix by volume of WBS/Steve's buffalo manure (Ebay) with
about 25-50% by volume vermiculite added (just until things
felt right) and supplemented with a couple tablespoons of
black mustard seed (for oils), half cup of stevia tea leaves,
and 1/3 cup bee pollen.
Using the 50/50 peatmoss basic casing formula plus 10% coco coir,
each spawn bag filled single 12-quart tray with about 3" to 4"
of substrate. Trays were laid with 3/4 inch casing pH-balanced
to 7.1 with calcium carbonate powder (I do not recommend hydrated
lime). I also added a lot of crushed aragonite coral per the Hawke
formula instead of crushed oyster shell.
In 5 more days the casing is completely colonized and the trays were
put in the fruiting chamber. I mixed up the very topmost casing
to give even colonization (called a light scratch). Here is the
casing 24 hours after putting it in the fruiting chamber.
The pins grow:
In a couple more days, the pins become mushrooms:
First flush harvest (pics show only one 12-quart tray worth of the harvest):
Posted 20 October 2006 - 09:43 PM
Posted 20 October 2006 - 09:49 PM
but hypothetically speaking...
because really it is of no concern
nor any great surprise
that some folks grow an excess
to share with others,
still that isn't really his point
instead i think he's arguing
if i'm following all this correctly
that LCs are as useful as g2g
negating the need of an extra step ?
Posted 20 October 2006 - 10:55 PM
Posted 20 October 2006 - 11:04 PM
Posted 21 October 2006 - 11:36 PM
Posted 22 October 2006 - 08:22 AM
While it is true his is a quicker method, they are really both the same.
The average joe takes say a pint/quart of colonized wbs and spawns it to a couple pounds of poo into a 12 quart rubbermaid. This is let to colonize and then cased.
The only difference between this and Blue's method is that Blue is laying a couple pounds of colonized poo into the 12 quart rubbermaid and casing it immediately. They both use the same amount of poo.
I think most people are "fascinated" with spawn because it's easier for them to go from spores to spawn to substrate.
Lc's are fast, but they take room and conditions to store properly. I know you can do the vacutainer bit, but then you must grow them out from there, thus negating some of the saved time.
There are benefits to using spawn other than trying to spawn to bulk in order to grow a shitload of fruits. Imo, it's easier to pc 16 pints of wbs/grains at one time, then innoculate with many different strains, and let colonize. This spawn may sit until you want to use it. This benefit doesn't exist with Blue's method. Once the bag is colonized, if you don't put it into a tub like he does, it will start fruiting in the bag.
This hobby is all about innovations, trade-offs, and finding what works for you.
Posted 22 October 2006 - 08:25 AM
one can easily tell by looking if one's spawn is contam'd,
not so for many LCs which look ok but aren't...
Posted 22 October 2006 - 08:56 AM
Whereas he has had most kick ass results inoculating his bulk substrate with popcorn. Even when he does everthing all in one bag, he puts a layer of popcorn on top to colonize and then spawn (without opening the bag - cubies fruit nicely invitro).
Posted 22 October 2006 - 09:26 AM
Now that I've learned these spawning techniques, the transition to growing other species is less intimidating and really should be a breeze.
Does that make sense?
Posted 26 March 2007 - 11:15 AM
Posted 26 March 2007 - 11:21 AM
Posted 24 June 2007 - 08:41 AM
A five Lb bag of Fescue/Bluegrass mix is less than 50cents per pound, which is cheap for any spawn material...
The Mycelium seems to like this stuff as well as any..These Ziplocks were double steamed for 75 mins ,one day apart..
These are 1 gallon double walled bags ,which hold up well in the pot..
The filter is a pollywadd held tight with a wire tie ..The black dots are the injection sights for the culture syringe..
What u see here is Shiitaki spawn[syringe from Sporeworks], almost ready for birthing..
They will be fruited directly as mini logs , layed out in a tray of potting soil.