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#21 CoyoteMesc

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 09:03 AM

sweet, care to tell us how you hydrated the seed?

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 09:38 AM

cool, i was wondering about those mixes, they're much easier found than actual pure rye grass seed. i think i paid like over $1.50 a pound for my last batch of perennial rye grass seed. i'll be keeping an eye on this thread for sure.

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 10:06 AM

I also have Texas Coplandia's started on the same seed ,so that should give us a good comparison..

The Seed is very easy to prep ..Simmer in a pot for 35 mins ,i add a squirt of dish soap to allow faster penetration/soaking and use about 5 times the volume of water to seed..
After the 35 min simmer the seed is dumped into a colander to drain for 1 min..Then dumped back into the pot..

The seed holds way more water than it should because they're so tiny - so
i mix in about one eighth of the volume with dry vermiculite , stir well and it's just right...

Load the jars/bags n yer golden...

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 10:23 AM

it'd be interesting to see how a sclerotia producing species might do on a fescue mix...
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Posted 24 June 2007 - 10:24 AM

i mix in about one eighth of the volume with dry vermiculite , stir well and it's just right..

ever considering stirring in shredded manure instead ?

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 11:26 AM

it'd be interesting to see how a sclerotia producing species might do on a fescue mix...
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The Mexicana from Sporeworks works great on it. No difference at all.

The stuff I use is usually around 30-50% rye anyways. And Golly's right, it's a load cheaper than rye alone. Just buy the largest bag of grass seed you can find for least amount of money. Stuff on sale in other words. heh

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 11:28 AM

By the way; I mix 3/4cup of water/1.5cups of seed in quart jars, then stirred up well and pc'd for 60 minutes. Comes out perfecto.

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 12:02 PM

Yeah, i bet that dry crumbled manure would be a good alternative to verm..
I'll try that on the next round..
Laz ,the one and only time i tried the premeasured water in Qt jars - seemed the lower parts became over hydrated and the upper had not enough...

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 12:46 PM

Each jar has to be mixed up well, so all of the seed and water is mixed thoroughly. If it's not mixed up well, the seed is useless after cooking it. A gooey mess in the bottoms.

I measure out the parts in each jar and before I put the lids on, I put my hand over the mouth of the jar and then I shake it up well. There should be no standing water in the bottoms. Just seed that's coated well with water.

Oh, and 1 pinch of lime or gypsum per jar.

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 09:10 PM

I think this question is right along the lines of what is being discussed here. I bought rye grass seed from a local farm supply but they didn't specify that it was perennial grass seed. Did I get the wrong stuff? I tried some P. Mexicana on it, innoculated about 30 days ago and no signs of germination or contams.
Matter of fact, I seriously doubt that this is "lawn quality" seed since it's used for seeding pastures. It works just fine in my woodlover cultures though.
I'll be trying your seed idea soon Golly. Thanks for sharing.
Since I'm low on spore solution do you think I could get away with expanding what I have on hand to a liquid culture?

#31 Hippie3

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 09:33 PM

....the one and only time i tried the premeasured water in Qt jars - seemed the lower parts became over hydrated and the upper had not enough...


same here

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 05:37 AM

Myc;
I've found Annual and Perennial RGS to work equally well ,as long as they're not stained green [fungicide]..
U could make an LC or a G2G transfer to expand your limited solution..
I prefer the latter but u need a Glove box for dat....

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Posted 30 June 2007 - 09:58 PM

that green stuff can be washed off, btw

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 09:49 AM

http://mycotopia.net...grass-seed.html

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 10:20 AM

Hip, whats the process for getting the chems off? Just a soak and rinse?

Waylit style cakes (pancakes) work very well with seed instead of, or in addition to, brf or other grains. For many species.

My cakes seem to need more dunking/moisture than standard. But perhaps the seed was not properly hydrated.

#36 Hippie3

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 10:32 AM

took me several rinses to get the green dye off
but it worked ok once i did.

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 10:36 AM

Cool. Probably no soaking, come to think of it. Might soak the poisons right into the seed.

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 10:39 AM

perhaps.
having done it once
my opinion is that i would sure try to get non-green seed
as it was a royal pain to do all that rinsing.
still if there's no other choice...

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 10:34 PM

I did pf-tek no problem. But what i doen't understand is that rye spawn jars have no protective verm layer, mmmm i think, maybe I incubate them like my sealed LC jars with no FEA. What i would like to do is inuculate rye jars with LC and seal the jar with the rubber seal facing down, with no FEA with this work???? I really down want to get into the hole tyvek thing, pleaase help

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 04:55 AM

they will need some air exchange,
you will need a hole and a filter in the lid.
tyvek or polyfil or filter disk or even my airport system,
but it is necessary.




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