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psylocybe cyanescens new york nov 16th 07


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#21 mjshroomer

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Posted 25 December 2007 - 10:51 AM

HI, I just wanted to post a few images of Psilocybe cubensis with wavy caps.

Many Psilocybe species have a wavy cap in age and it is but one of many characteristics used to key out the species to genus.

Other mushrooms also have wavy caps which are not psychoactive. Species like Agrocybe and even Galerina species get wavy caps.

The above mushrooms are probably close to or are P. caerulipes. These are separated macroscopically from P. ovoideocystidiata which is similar but has a veil remnant on most collections.

Here are some wavy P. cubensis images.

Four images from the first flush

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One image from the 2nd flush

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and one image from the 3rd flush

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Altogether, there are about 25 Psilocybe species which have wavy caps.

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Posted 25 December 2007 - 11:07 AM

lazlo knows you move it can survive


mj is a real expert
of that you can be absolutely certain
so all would be well advised to listen carefully

btw
i won't tolerate this kind of badgering,
am i being clear ?
save your crap about dinos in cali to yourself.

while patches can be transplanted to non-native areas
they typically die off withing a very few years.

the center of this debate
is not whether p.cyans CAN be grown on the east coast,
everyone knows they can, artificially aided by human hand.

the real question is
has the species become naturalized, native to the area,
there to stay without human help.

and that
has NOT been demonstrated

and no 'benefit of the doubt'
can be extended in matters of science,
that's just ridiculous.

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 01:29 AM

a humble apology extented :bow:
i wish not to offend you
what time period of survival constitutes adaptaion
they have traveled over 100 lineal feet and colonized a great deal in between since my initial discovery over 4 yrs ago
i claim no such evidence of adaptation because i do not know what criteria to compare against. is there any info you know of on the evolution of mushrooms? i am very interested at this point in my venture, it is not science just a little theory of mine. any help on this topic would be greatly appreciated
this is all i meant to inquire and will do so appropriately in the future

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 02:15 AM

We'll see in a few years. Only time will tell.

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 10:38 AM

if they have been growing back for 4 years..thats pretty impressive.
you should get a sample examined.

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 12:07 PM

by who? what parts? spores at least. im not going to send tissue samples anywhere photos are good for now at least until i know it is acceptable to do so i only have a few prints at the moment but the next fruit is pinning indoors. More outdoors will be available in spring
the out doors is not prepared a bed, in the sense of prepared for colonization, early spring in the rainy season has most yield so we will see then if they are still persistent
in the mean time spores will be available for research soon

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 12:10 PM

my microscope will be here any day now
i will post documentationon in the "psilocybe cyanescens close up" thread once it get some spore images

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 12:11 PM

pm sent

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 04:00 PM

The fact that you say that

More outdoors will be available in spring


Indicates that they are P. caerulipes because p. cyanescens is a fall to freeze mushroom which never grows in the spring.

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 04:12 PM

Caerulipes is also a fall mushroom, audubon says august through october.

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 03:55 PM

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they look exactly like these images posted by waylitjim
which leads me to believe they are not the caerulipes
i will be posting my results following microscopic evaluation
i also intend to have the spores examined by a third party
i will post images of both the spores and some freshie when they are ready

hey whatever species it is i love em
actually my wife gets jealous because of time spent studying and researching them
ill admit it has become my favorite pasttime i find this most interesting

i have looked at several pictures of all the other suggested species since i joined this forum and none of those look like the ones i am reffering to
i have seen and read about how mushrooms can appear differently but be the same species based on location, substrate, and environment so
we will have to let the scope decide

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 04:03 PM

If you could post photographs, that would surely put a lot of this to rest.

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 04:59 PM

i have some pics from this past fall
sorry about the cropping but i wish not to disclose location at this time
notice in the picture of the small pile how several of the small ones already have the wave going
unfortunately i must pick them young at this location

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 05:01 PM

thats my baby
last year they came in handfuls but this year i have competition due to a couple of greedy ex friends i had confided in
so what do you suggest
feedback pls.

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 05:39 PM

most robust healthy fruit was about 3.6 inch tall
and gnarly looking in a very appealing way, to me any way
im also looking for any advice on fruiting these pupies
i was thinking about cracking oxygen tank twice daily any thoughts
im currently working with the setup on the "psilocybe cyanescens close up" threadwhere one may also observe pictures of its mycelial groth and some pins
my cold plate is not effective enough so i am bending up some sheet metal in a corrugated fashion to cool more surface area ill post pics on the above mentioned thread when i install it

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 05:48 PM

by the way at three grams this is exhilerating
one gram is a good rush but i have rinsed them which probably decreased potency,but this was because it is in a location were i like to draw little attention and visit only briefly so i have not the time to pick them clean and they get dirty on the way back as they are all tossed into a bag together
i wouldve liked to snip them but just yanked partial footprint w/it as i take mycelial sample in process

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 06:43 PM

Wow, those stems are fat
what are they growing from?

i dont think those are cyanescens or caerulipes
im interested to hear others have to say
this may be a new species.

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 06:48 PM

i dont think those are cyanescens or caerulipes.


Me either. Let's wait to see what some of the more experienced say. Very interesting indeed!

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 10:26 PM

they grow out of a mulched area
mulch is top half inch to 1 1/2 inch
then underneath is a good 1 foot deep layer of decomposed wood /rich soil
lots of worm castings
leaves drop every fall a whole shit load 3inch aproxx and are left to decompose
there are many other competitor fungi/ slime fungi/ mold and some other growths in this large area
i visit it year round frequently based around rainfall and weather reports and see a large variety/and number of mushrooms most
days are happy days as i just love mushrooms of all kinds
i wish i had more pics of this place to share i see what i can get together my hard drive crashed a few years ago long story
but i lost a large data base of info in the process
including that of my adventures in modern refrigeration
another long story

anyway i need help with the fruiting i have many viable samples
and one tray with a couple pins but is very slow or im impatient the pins have advanced about an eighth inch last day and 1/2
anyway i used to just harvest 8"x8" approx footprints/w pins
and stick em in trays in this giant fridge (i constructed out of building materials, 3 car radiators, fishtank +pump and dissassembled dehumidifier)
to continue fruiting
that did well enough then but not really well
ill draw it for anyone who is interested
pretty easy to make if your handy

anyway im all ears
i hope my scope comes tommorow

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 10:39 PM

here is tho whole shot that the small cluster is from
along with some close ups of some premature fellows

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