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#1 pareil

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Posted 29 November 2007 - 06:45 PM

I was amazed and amused to discover these references
to a mushroom with an unusual aromatic quality.
Pardon me if this is old news,
but I thought it would be of interest to at least a few friends here:

>From MushRumors, Vol. 41, No. 3, May-June 2002

MUSHROOMS AND MAUI - PART II

Note: In the last issue, our intrepid Field Trip Chair was braving the
elements in an effort to find mushrooms on Maui. During his search, he
came across John Holliday, a cultivator of medicinal mushrooms. John
set him to locations and told him much about the Hawaiian mushroom
scene. This included giving Ben a paper on his research of a Hawaiian
Dictyphora. What follows was gleaned mostly from this paper and
conversations with John.

MAMALU O WAHINE
(WOMAN'S MUSHROOM)

Perhaps the most interesting Hawaiian mushroom story involves legend
meeting reaity in the kipuka ecosystems of the Big Island. There is an
ancient legend in the Hawaiian Islands of a mushroom with peculiar
properties. The legend is known throughout the high islands of
Polynesia, the islands of Tahiti, Samoa, Rarotonga and the Marquesas
and in various forms throughout the world; all have similar tales. It
tells of women who encounter this mushroom in the forest and go into
fits of sexual ecstasy. Mushrooms: they are not just for dinner.
Kipukas are areas that have older vegetation than the surrounding
areas. This is the result of lava flows covering the surrounding
areas, missing the kipuka and sparing its vegetation. As a result,
there is a very large difference in the species and their size between
the outside and inside of a kipuka. Kipukas tend to be found in hot,
dry areas with a climate that almost mandates fast life cycles for
fungal species. A fungus similar to Dictyphora indusiata is one such
species.
The tropical version of D. indusiata must spread its spores via
insects. To attract insects to the kipuka rapidly and over great
distances, the lifetime of the fungus is often only three to four
hours, and its flesh is very pungent (so pungent, in fact, that it
attracts species other than insects).
It has been reported that women living on the Big Island gather to
seek out this fungus because its odor is arousing when sniffed. John
Holliday came across a nurse in a doctor's office whose mother
apparently engaged in this activity. This woman was curious if John
knew shy her mother and friends went out smelling mushrooms on Sunday
mornings.
In an attempt to confirm or deny the reputed effects, John Holliday
offered a fresh specimen for sniffing to a nubmer of randomly chosen
subjects, both male and female. Of 20 males who took part, all found
the smell repulsive and declined any further testing. No physiological
responses were noted in any of the male test subjects. Women, however,
found the smell pleasant. In a controlled clinical trial involving 16
women, six had orgasms while smelling the fruiting body of the fungus.
The other 10 experienced physiological changes, most notably increased
heart rates. These 10 received smaller doses, so it is possible their
responses were dose-related (I have a copy of a paper on this trial by
John Holliday and Noah Soule.) According to John, the results suggest
that the hormone-like compounds present in the volatile portion of the
spore mass may have some similarity to human neurotransmitters
released in females during sexual encounters.
The occurrence of mammalian pheromoes in the fungal kingdom is not
unprecedented. The tuber genus contains the chemical
alpha-androstenol. Attempts to isolate and identify the compounds in
the Dictyphora sp. with a gas chromatograph/mass spectrometer have
thus far failed.
As with the morels and boletes, I was unable to obtain any first-hand
validation. First, I was on Maui, not the Big Isaldn. Second, this was
my honeymoon and I thought such a mushroom experiment could have been
a deal breaker.
The legend says that only when the gods are pleased will they bring
forth this magical plant, the Mamalo o Wahine, the mushroom that makes
women go made with desire. And only if a woman leads a good and
virtuous life will the gods reward her with this special treat just
for her pleasure. Of course, you could lead a non-virtuous life and
get in the next clinical trial.
The above paragraphs are not a paid advertisement of the Hawaiian
Tourist Board.

-Ben Sostrin

Another article, with an incongruous accompanying photo:
Strange Mushroom Scent Triggers Female Orgasms? | Aphrodisiology: The Study of Aphrodisiacs

If indeed there is a variety with erotic olfactory effects,
does anyone have experience with stinkhorn cultivation?

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Posted 29 November 2007 - 06:54 PM

If indeed there is a variety with erotic olfactory effects,
does anyone have experience with stinkhorn cultivation?


LOL, I don't par. Let me know if you start some and it works though. I can use any edge with the ladies that I can get.

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Posted 29 November 2007 - 07:07 PM

Six out of 16 had orgasms from smelling mushrooms?

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 07:05 PM

I was curious about this so I asked Paul Stamets and John Holliday if this was some kind of joke. They both answered their email right away - Paul Stamets said that it was a joke and John Holliday sad that it is completely true and works great.


See, clear as mud.

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 02:09 PM

I read that article also. Here is another good site: www.aphrodisology.com/mushroom-female-aphrodisiac
Related links, pix, etc. It states that this is the mushroom
sold in Chinese markets as bambo fungus, long net stinkhorn.
The Chinese are also aware of the orgasm sniffing property.

Here is my idea. I live near a large asisan community. So, Ill get the
dehydrated fungus and resurrect it on agar for a transfer clean-up.
Any idea on substrate? I have cloned store bought fungi - so have
some experience. I am willing to share with interested parties, if I
get it going. The Chinese do cultivate it, but the translation on
the links that I have found are horrible.

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 02:34 PM

I was curious about this so I asked Paul Stamets and John Holliday if this was some kind of joke. They both answered their email right away - Paul Stamets said that it was a joke and John Holliday sad that it is completely true and works great.


See, clear as mud.


Clear indeed, isn't Stamets heavily involved in the process of patenting as many fungal life forms that he can? with his stupid 'p-value' stamp?

So if stamets says that its a joke it means he's deep into some research on propagating the mushroom, isolating the compound, and patenting the whole shebang (get it? 'shebang' 'she-bang' for a mushroom that causes female orgasms? :lol:).

I've read that his place is more correctly referred to as a 'compound', as he's fighting off an army industrial espionage spies. That dude must be rolling in the dough if he has to build a security compound around his mushroom grows to keep out spies. I wonder if you have to go through some sort of background check to take his classes now? lol

If there ever was a mushroom compound to isolate and put a copyright on, and then charge out the ass for it, its that one.

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 02:41 PM

Maybe there'll be a day when we can buy "orgasm in a bottle" for ladies.

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 03:57 PM

Clear indeed, isn't Stamets heavily involved in the process of patenting as many fungal life forms that he can? with his stupid 'p-value' stamp?

So if stamets says that its a joke it means he's deep into some research on propagating the mushroom, isolating the compound, and patenting the whole shebang (get it? 'shebang' 'she-bang' for a mushroom that causes female orgasms? :lol:).

I've read that his place is more correctly referred to as a 'compound', as he's fighting off an army industrial espionage spies. That dude must be rolling in the dough if he has to build a security compound around his mushroom grows to keep out spies. I wonder if you have to go through some sort of background check to take his classes now? lol

If there ever was a mushroom compound to isolate and put a copyright on, and then charge out the ass for it, its that one.


yeah, although i admire his work, Paul's fallen a bit into the money side of things :(

i go by his place once in a while. i wouldnt exactly call it a compound, but peeps certainly notice if you try and enter.

this is the first i've heard of this par. thanks :)

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 05:15 PM

Maybe there'll be a day when we can buy "orgasm in a bottle" for ladies.


that's what I am talking about. Not that it would replace you boys...
but when the one isn't available... sure would come in handy.
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Posted 01 December 2007 - 05:17 PM

Thank you Alan Rockefeller for investigating further. :bow:
I knew there were channels of inquiry that were not apparent to me.
At least one response is affirmative,
though recreational stinkhorn-sniffing would make a fantastic hoax.

solentblu, welcome to Mycotopia!
I believe we have clicked some of the same links to info on maiden's veil cultivation.
It would be fortuitous if the variety at your local market has arousing properties.
I expected a specimen would have to be acquired from Hawai`i.
If you get a culture going, by all means post your findings! :thumbup:

Dr. T, I took the same meaning when I read it
but the article actually says "while smelling the fruiting body,"
so I suppose that leaves room for some funny business. :eusa_thin

Beast and TCO, I don't know about Stamets' practices, but I too find it consternating
when commerce alternately stimulates and retards scientific progress.

oibchip and jjoj, pleasure in a bottle could totally backfire.
Best to stay on your game.
With ultimate power comes ultimate responsibility :heart:

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Posted 02 December 2007 - 06:22 PM

No shit, that's worth further investigation! Someone has to cultivate them :].




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