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#1 lithops3

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 02:39 PM

I wanted to find out brands/sources for coir. I read in an earlier thread that some of the horticulture grade coir bricks are innoculated with trich. What are brand names of coir brick that are NOT innoculated with trich? What are you folks using with success? Does anyone have a good source to purchase coir blocks (bulk?) cheap, someplace besides the pet store?

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 02:47 PM

BeddaBeast
Pet stores are cheap!(when it comes to Coir)
Never heard of some one adding trich to anything. Sounds absurd.

#3 PsychoDrogue

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 02:47 PM

lots of people use this stuff in gardening as well. i've never heard about trich in coir and i still buy stuff from petstores all the time...

this was the first shop that came up when i googled coconut fiber. its all over the place. i'm sure your local greenhouse would have them but if its cold this time of year they might not be open.

GrowCoir Coconut Coir Fiber

#4 Hippie3

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 02:54 PM

just because you haven't heard about it
doesn't negate the fact that some coir is indeed deliberately laced with trich as it's beneficial for gardening.
get the reptile bedding kind to be 100% safe.

#5 PsychoDrogue

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 03:05 PM

your correct. i was just pointing out the alternative to pet stores since thats what he was trying to avoid. sorry for pointing in the wrong direction

#6 camMyco

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 03:08 PM

The Trich is added to promote rooting.

#7 sublimemushhead

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 03:11 PM

No apologies, In my experience I haven't crossed this or the info leading me to believe it. Links make me a believer. What use does trich play in the garde. I am interested as a botanist my self. Not like a Actinomyces colony for beneficial soil.

#8 sublimemushhead

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 03:12 PM

Trich for roots?? What. Where do you get this. I have got to know your source of education, as that I might become educated on this practise.

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 03:20 PM

Here is the brand of reptile bedding sold at my local pet store.

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#10 camMyco

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 04:49 PM

Trich for roots?? What. Where do you get this. I have got to know your source of education, as that I might become educated on this practise.



May be just propaganda -

www.empireorganics.com/products_info.html

#11 sublimemushhead

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 06:13 PM

As some one obsessed w/ soil since 14, this has never come acrossed in the field or research, I'd sway tword pointless propaganda(cause trich tryin' to take over,lol).Couldn't get that link to pull up.

#12 PsychoDrogue

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 10:25 PM

Empire Organics - Premium Coconut Coir-Substrates [Product Info]

The 7th dot... never seen that before myself.

#13 Hippie3

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 10:27 PM

Naturally contains Trichoderma a natural rooting/ growth agent.

i guess you get to learn something new today.
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Posted 05 December 2007 - 10:42 PM

I wonder how many people ordered that stuff for mushrooms and then noticed that it had trich! Gee, thanks, but I can do that all by myself.

One thing: The description said "Naturally contains," which implies none was specifically added, but none was killed either. Is this significant, or does not most of it "naturally contain" some trich?

BTW: Anybody want to buy a few cups of peat moss that I have already helpfully inoculated w/ a special mold that helps with rooting plants? I'll sell it for less than anyone on the web!


MANNABETHEWAY: ALL propaganda has a point! Scaring a few mushroom growers away from coir by spreading false rumors of it being infected w/ trich would be pointless, which is why I immediately suspected the story to be true. Plus, I've heard about the beneficial uses of that mold before with regards to horticulture, but this is the first product I've seen with it mentioned so I think a lot of us have learned something new today. Mycotopia is really handy for that, and welcome aboard!

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 09:51 AM

I have two large bags of Pro Mix BX wich is peat with added mycorrhyza does any 1 know if this can be used as a bulk
Sub or will the mycorrhyza doom the spawn ?

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 11:58 AM

Some innovative propagation materials are inoculated with strains of Trichoderma.Many forms of coco coir contain it naturally. CANNA's Coco Growing Media is innoculated with it. If a healthy root environment is maintained, the bacteria will continue to colonize the roots and multiply in the growing media. The trichoderma help to form a protective layer around the root system, helping to fend off invading pathogens, etc.


GreenCoast Hydroponics Information on Root Health and Pathogens in Hydroponic Systems

Canna Coco Organic Growing Mediums

Discount Hydroponics - Canna Coco Coir

Canna appears to be the big offender when it comes to adding trich to coir.

#17 Hippie3

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 12:24 PM

peat is not a bulk sub like coir.

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Posted 07 December 2007 - 08:02 PM

ahh i see peat is only used for casings ?

#19 Hippie3

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Posted 07 December 2007 - 08:04 PM

correct but even then one must add lime to balance ph .




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