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#1 vinz

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 09:50 PM

so i decided to build this thread up again because i will be working on it again soon
i was worried about showing the timeline
but i got to figure it out on the properties of the pictures when it shows when it was taken so good :)

7/21
i inoculated the ff with MS Atl#7 from Sporeworks:
- agar plates
- 300ml jars


this is how i did my jars:
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ratio of 2:1 grass seed:water
let the seed and water sit overnight before
PC for 1hour and 30minutes
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silicon blob and filter patches

7/27
- pics of the agar plates (6days later)
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- pics of the jars (6days later)
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8/3
- i used one 300ml jar to g2g to 2 quart jars and 2 spawn bags


8/4
- pics of the plates
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8/6
- pics of the jars
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8/13
- 10 days from the g2g and signs of stones are showing
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8/20
- stones have grown big!
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9/3
- update on the quart jars
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*note: it took a few days longer for the stones to begin to form in the spawn bags

9/26
- i was going to clone this stone from one of the 300ml jars:
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but then some shit happened and i lost my clone
here are some pics anyway
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now
12/20
- 4months+ after:
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the quart jars and spawnbags have so much growth in them, the 300ml jars have a lot also but i did not take pics of those.

next year il be working on them more.. planning to clone a stone on agar, use a stone for g2g, eat the stones, and make MORE!

to be continued...

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 10:15 PM

nice as always vinz. those are some fat stones. now you just have to pass them without gaggin...lol:eusa_clap

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 03:05 AM

Beautifull stones dude :) :bow:

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 07:03 AM

Great write up , cool pictures
Looks good Vinz:thumbup:
Do you have to use a stone for the G2G or can you use some grain with myc growing on it?
What exactly is the determining factor for stone production?
If you cloned a stone would your clone be more likly to produce more stones then if you used a piece of grain that had myc on it?

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Posted 21 December 2007 - 12:31 PM

That's an awesome haul :thumbup:

Do you have to use a stone for the G2G or can you use some grain with myc growing on it?
What exactly is the determining factor for stone production?
If you cloned a stone would your clone be more likly to produce more stones then if you used a piece of grain that had myc on it?


You can use myc for the G2G, it is very aggressive ime. The determining factors should be high CO2 levels, stone production is believed to be a survival mechanism of growing invitro inherent in a few species and strains thereof. I would think that cloning a stone would be like cloning any other shroom with the results being greater stone production. But 'cloning' a piece of myc would likely show no appreciable gain, due to the initial innoculation being multi spore.

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Posted 21 December 2007 - 12:42 PM

good stuff :bow:

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Posted 21 December 2007 - 12:49 PM

pic of the month nominee rite there

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#8 Hippie3

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Posted 21 December 2007 - 12:56 PM

what was done after first harvest to prep for 2nd flush ?

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Posted 21 December 2007 - 02:35 PM

vinz vinz vinz nice work bud i like it

#10 vinz

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Posted 22 December 2007 - 12:39 AM

what was done after first harvest to prep for 2nd flush ?



i havent gone 2nd flush, that stone i got was just from the top of the jar.. i didnt touch anything else..

thanks everyone..

yeah ss, i think cloning a stone / using it for g2g would give me better stone production.. shobimono told me that..

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Posted 22 December 2007 - 08:57 AM

I just got some p. atlantis spores from another member and I am gonna start them up here soon I hope. I will be pickin your brain if ya don't mind vinz

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Posted 23 December 2007 - 02:25 AM

some crazy shit, very nice! how long do you let it develop before harvesting it?

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Posted 23 December 2007 - 03:09 PM

wow wow wow, those things are ugly. You eat those!? are they better than a normal mushie?

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Posted 23 December 2007 - 04:28 PM

wow wow wow, those things are ugly. You eat those!? are they better than a normal mushie?


Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, yes, most people eat em, better as in how? It is said they are not a potent but easier to control the high. And I think you mean 'typical', No they are not as popular,
Here is a bit of info I got off google,

Fresh Philosopher's Stone truffles are technically not mushrooms and do not look anything like magic mushrooms; they're closer to muesli or breakfast cereals.
Psilocybe mexicana is also known as the truffle or Philosopher's Stone. This hallucinogen will give you a stoned, psychedelic, philosophical, happy and visual trip.
According to some experienced trippers, Psilocybe mexicana is a very good alternative to magic mushrooms for first time users, because they give a good feeling and it is an easy controllable trip compared to other psychedelics. After taking these truffles, you will feel giggly and generally find yourself in an ecstatic state of mind. The psychedelic effects of the Psilocybe mexicana truffles can last as long as 6 hours. The psychedelic and euphoric effects will last for 3 hours, after which these effects will make place for a stoned effect of another 3 hours.
This Psilocybe mexicana truffle is a euphoric psychedelic (hallucinogen) and contains psilocin and psilocybin. Because of the different effects of this truffle, compared to other Psilocybe magic mushrooms other psychedelic alkaloids are suspected to be present.
Philosopher's Stones only contain about 50% water. That's why these fresh truffles will stay OK for several months when stored in the fridge.



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Posted 23 December 2007 - 04:34 PM

hmm, p. mexicana is a mushroom producing species
even though sclerotia themselves are not mushrooms.
it can produce either , both.

here are mexicana mushrooms-
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sclerotia on agar
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Posted 23 December 2007 - 04:50 PM

The same mycel?

I did not know that. :amazed:

Crazy

Is it the lack o2 or luck of the draw?

#17 vinz

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Posted 25 December 2007 - 11:24 AM

im planning to harvest them some time in january
so that would be around 6 months?
you can harvest as early as 2 months
some people i know let it grow in the jar for up to a year..
i also heard that the longer it is in the jar the more potent it is..

i hope it tastes better than mushrooms though..

fruiting it is a whole different thing..
prankster was able to fruit the atlantis#7 :bow:
it takes long to for it to fruit..

i have yet to work on that..
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Posted 25 December 2007 - 01:08 PM

Excellent job, Vinz. Is there a magic number (weight) on the amount of dried stones for first time users? Normally, I would take half an 1/8 to a full 1/8 of Cubes for a decent experience. Aren't stones stronger? ~Skunk

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Posted 29 December 2007 - 06:57 AM

anyone remember the dosage of these guys? they are 2/3 more potent than cubies? something like that?

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Posted 29 December 2007 - 11:06 AM

Mycotopia Web Archive: Fresh Mexicana Stones

older stone = stronger




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