Posted 04 January 2008 - 04:00 PM
First, the bird seed I used did had milo, millet, cracked corn and black sunflower seeds. I pulled out the sunflower seeds, but is the cracked corn going to present a problem? My mixture seems kind of starchy and is sticking together more than it looks like it should.
Second, and this may be the problem more than the cracked corn, is after I put them in for a soak, I took a brief trip to the hospital, and so did not get to re-rinse, put into jars, and PC for two and a half days -- perhaps they got too hydrated?
They're cooling now, but I don't want to innoculate bad jars -- any insight? Should I just start over? Thanks in advance for the quick replies! -e
Posted 04 January 2008 - 04:08 PM
Posted 04 January 2008 - 04:18 PM
those look wrong.
I would prolly knock em up anyway, but in the future you want to see no smooshed wet seeds at all. Just good hydrated WBS with no moisture in the bottom. Sorry to be a pain in the ass, but jars that look like that never seem to colonize for me.
Others may disagree.
Posted 04 January 2008 - 04:22 PM
I recommend a 24 hour soak. then simmer you wbs to get the right water content this IME makes it easier than adding water to jars and pcing. i simmer for 20 - 30 mins and periodically check the wbs by crushing a small amount in my fingers. You want the seed soft all the way trough but not burst open like u see in the bottom of the jar in your pic. once u have simmered to the right water content u will want to rinse it well a couple times then drain ALL the water off well then load your jars. this should get the WBS perfect for a 90 min pc run
I have successfully colonized jars that look mushy in the bottom like yours in the pic. it will take much longer to colonize and may give u problems. unless u got a lot of spores to burn i would recommend trying another round and getting the water content lower.
as far as corn being you problem i cant help you. i never used wbs with it.
Posted 04 January 2008 - 04:23 PM
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Posted 04 January 2008 - 06:20 PM
Also, about 1/4 to 1/3-jar headspace is nice; allows shaking during colonization if you're into that, and I've had generally better results that way.
Posted 04 January 2008 - 07:14 PM
Shaking the jars while they're still hot is a great way to avoid starchy clumps.
Open the PC soon after it's depressurized, grab a couple pot holders, and shake the heck out of the jars.
Jars as gooey as yours have given FOAF nothing but bacterial problems, I'd empty them and try again. WBS is cheap.
FOAF cold soaks for 24 hours maximum, rinses, then drains in a colander for a few hours. Some cracked corn in the mix is not a problem.
Posted 04 January 2008 - 07:45 PM
that much starch is bound to fail.
becareful if you simmer your WBS i can burst them
Posted 04 January 2008 - 08:22 PM
the real culprit for that mess
that wasn't rinsed off well enough.
burst grain releases starch
which is why we avoid bursting the kernels open.
but with cracked corn
every kernel is already burst, broken open
and dumping all that starch in the mix.
Posted 05 January 2008 - 09:54 AM