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#41 adm9

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Posted 08 April 2008 - 04:50 PM

Hey Llelo,

I gotta take the same test thru Kelly,
did you pass yours?

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 11:56 PM

I used blow 5 times within 2 months of my test, and took a couple hits of weed before my test. I had Precision Cleanse overnighted to me and followed the directions exactly as they stated. I passed my test. The stuff does work...

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Posted 22 April 2008 - 02:23 PM

sry for not replying. Yeah I passed, haven't heard from Kelly that I haven't. Looks like you did ok yourself.

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 10:11 AM

Hello everybody,

I have a hair test sometime soon (2 week to 2 months) at Cessna. I did some reading and found certain methods on the forum. Also, I heard of Precision Cleanser. All my friends who got tested at Cessna told me that they dont take any head hair samples. Usually arm pits or any other locations. My head hair is really short 1/4-1/2 of an inch or something, so they sure wont take any of my head hair as a sample.

I used to be heavy smoker, like smoking 1/2 an ounce a week for year till Aug 2nd (quit) then after 2 weeks I did smoke 2-3 joints. Since then I didnt smoke at all.

Would you guys suggest? I really need this job badly Posted Image

Thanks for all the input in advance

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 11:43 AM

glad you passed!

I always suggest to job seekers, to stop smoking pot for a month, because it only takes 30 days to clean out of you at most, and then start looking for work, it usually takes another month to get a good solid interview. After that, you'll pass any test they throw at you.

Hair follicle testing is shady at best for Marijuana, and Cocaine doesn't even show up in h air follicles.

I do know from experience, that mushrooms DO SHOW UP in hair follicle testing.

#46 DeltaX

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 11:57 AM

i did mention above that I did quit smokin month ago..


any can help?

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 12:10 PM

i did mention above that I did quit smokin month ago..


any can help?


So you quit for a month, then smoked a few joints 2 or 3 weeks ago? Is that what you were saying?

If I got that right, I'd say just don't smoke at all until your test is done and over with. With just a few joints in the system, it should clear fairly quickly. (opinion, not fact) After a month passes with no smokage at all, you SHOULD be golden.

From what I've read and experienced, all of those cleaning products are never 100%. I've never had the hair folicle test myself, but I know the urine ones are usually a waste of money.

So ya, just don't smoke anymore and if you have a few weeks you'll be gravy.:thumbup:

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 12:14 PM

So you quit for a month, then smoked a few joints 2 or 3 weeks ago? Is that what you were saying?

If I got that right, I'd say just don't smoke at all until your test is done and over with. With just a few joints in the system, it should clear fairly quickly. (opinion, not fact) After a month passes with no smokage at all, you SHOULD be golden.

From what I've read and experienced, all of those cleaning products are never 100%. I've never had the hair folicle test myself, but I know the urine ones are usually a waste of money.

So ya, just don't smoke anymore and if you have a few weeks you'll be gravy.:thumbup:



Nooo. I did QUIT on Aug 2nd then smoked 2 weeks after that (Aug 17th). I havent smoked since then. So, ive been clean for a month and few days now :)

It wont be clean. Did I mention its a HAIR test?

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Posted 24 September 2008 - 07:37 AM

no one can help?

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Posted 24 September 2008 - 05:07 PM

The answers are already within this thread; have you tried those products yet?

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 03:25 AM

well karma is a bitch and now I am taking a hair test in a couple days but topia still doesnt have much info on the subject... not to mention I spent the last 12 hours reading up on the topic only to find some rather "not up to date info" when I returned here. Which is why I am looking elswhere for info and found 2 methods so far that are pretty harsh
Jerry G's method ----- this is for a heavyer smoker
and
macujo method ------ this is for a lighter smoker
both should show up in a google search

also passsahairtest DOT com is a scam for toxin wash so dont buy into that BS Not saying the product doesn't work but they are putting out fake info so...... they just want your money/it may not work

sorry I offended you guys but you have to admitt there isnt much info on that topic here
I love this site sorry to have pissed off the members
also I know I cant spell sorry I am a tard but I do have a college degree somehow!?!?!?!

to make it up to you guys I will write up a full report here on topia once I get through this whole test... if I can and even if I can't... well then I will just have more time to write it up I guess

wish me luck even though you hate me... please

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 11:22 AM

Taken from erowid**




http://www.erowid.or....ng_info1.shtml

WHAT DO THEY TEST FOR?
The first thing to know about drug testing is what the standard test looks for. What is being tested for varies greatly based on testing company, expense, expectations, federal requirements, etc. Following is a description of what to expect from the standard tests.

The SAMHSA-5 #
Federal government guidelines (by SAMHSA-the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration) require that companies which use commercial class drivers licenses for employees must have a testing system in place. Among other things, this required testing program must test for 5 specific categories of drugs (referred to as the "SAMHSA 5", previously called the "NIDA-5"). Because of this federal requirement, most drug testing companies offer a basic drug test that checks for drugs in these 5 common categories. Click on the substance name for a description of the laboratory method for detecting the substance.

1. Cannabinoids (marijuana, hash)
2. Cocaine (cocaine, crack, benzoylecognine)
3. Amphetamines (amphetamines, methamphetamines, speed)
4. Opiates (heroin, opium, codeine, morphine)
5. Phencyclidine (PCP)

Expanded Tests
Most drug testing companies also offer an expanded test which includes a few additional drug classes and specific drugs in the testing process. Most do not add all of these in their expanded test, but choose a different combination of 3 or 4 to add :

1. Barbiturates (Phenobarbital, Secobarbitol, Butalbital)
2. Hydrocodone (Lortab, Vicodin)
3. Methaqualone (Quaaludes)
4. Benzodiazepines (Valium, Xanax, Librium, Serax, Rohypnol)
5. Methadone
6. Propoxyphene (Darvon compounds)
7. Ethanol (Alcohol)
8. MDMA (Ecstasy)

Additional Testables
In addition, there are a few other substances which it is possible but quite unusual to test for. I only found reference to testing for these additional substances at 1 (out of 15) drug testing sites :

1. LSD
2. Tryptamines (Psilocybin, AMT, DMT, DPT, 5-MeO-DiPT)
3. Phenethylamines (Mescaline, MDMA, MDA, MDE, 2C-B, 2C-T-7)
4. Inhalents (Toluene, Xylene, Benzene)

TEST TYPES
There are five primary types of drug tests: urine, blood, hair, saliva, and sweat. Most common is the urine test which has the benefit of being inexpensive and less intrusive than the blood test.

Urine Tests

* Are the least expensive of the test methods (~$7-$50 for home version).
* Are considered an intrusive method of testing.
* Can be done at home (for example by parents) though require lab verification for accurate results.
* Detect use primarily within the past week (longer with regular use).
* Can be affected by abstaining from use for a period of time before the test.
* Are often temperature tested to insure sample integrity.

Saliva Tests

* Are a little more expensive than urine testing, but less than hair or blood. (~$15-$75).
* Are considered a relatively unintrusive method of drug testing.
* Are becoming more common.
* Are easy to administer but require lab processing to ensure accuracy.
* Detect use primarily within the past few days.
* Can detect more recent use than other testing methods.
* Have no nationally accepted standards or cutoff concentrations for detection, making results greatly dependent on the specific product purchased. This could also make results less-reliable and/or acceptable for legal cases.
* More reliable for detection of Methamphetamine and Opiates, less reliable for THC or Cannabinoids (2004).

Hair Tests

* Are currently several times more expensive than urine tests (~$100-$150).
* Are considered a relatively unintrusive method of drug testing.
* Detect substance use over a longer period (see detection period).
* Do not usually detect use within the past week.
* Require a sample of hair about the diameter of a pencil and 1.5 inches long. They can not be done with a single hair.
* Test positive a little more than twice as often as a urine test. In a recent study, out of 1823 paired hair and urine samples, 57 urine samples tested positive for drugs of abuse; while 124 hair samples from the same group tested positive.
* Are not significantly affected by brief periods of abstinence from drugs.
* Can sometimes be used to determine when use occured and if it has been discontinued. Drugs, such as opiates (codeine, morphine, heroin) lay down on the hair shaft very tightly and are shown not to migrate along the shaft, thus, if a long segment of hair is available one can draw some "relative" conclusions about when the use occurred. However cocaine, although very easy to detect, is able to migrate along the shaft; making it very difficult to determine when the drug was used and for how long.
* Claims to be able to reliably differentiate between opiate and poppy seed use.
* We've heard that many hair tests now check for more than the SAMHSA-5, and include at least Cannabis, Ecstasy/MDMA, Cocaine, Opiates, Methamphetamine, Amphetamine, Phencyclidine (PCP), Benzodiazepines, & Barbiturates (2001).

Blood Tests

* Are the most expensive method of testing.
* Are considered the most intrusive method of testing.
* Are the most accurate method of testing.
* Are the least common method of testing (most likely due to cost).

Sweat (Patch) Tests

* Are considered a relatively intrusive method of drug testing because they require the wearing of a patch for an extended period of time.
* Are still relatively uncommon.
* Are controversial in terms of accuracy. There is some reason to believe that surface contamination (such as cannabis smoke) can cause a false reading.
* Can detect use which would not trigger other tests. Because of the short detection period for many drugs in urine, single use of many drugs longer than a week prior to using the patch will not cause a positive urine test. Because the skin patches are gathering sweat over an extended period of time, it is possible that any use during that time will produce a positive result.

TEST SENSITIVITY
The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Association (SAMHSA) provides guidelines for what qualifies as a positive drug test. If a test does not give results higher than the guidelines, it does not qualify as a "positive" test. If an immunoassay test gives positive results, a second Gas Chromatography test must also give positive results before a result of "positive" is announced. The following chart shows the guidelines by substance.

SUBSTANCE IMMUNOASSAY GC / MS
Cannabis 50 ng/ml 15 ng/ml
Cocaine 300 ng/ml 150 ng/ml
Opiates 300 ng/ml 300 ng/ml
Amphetamines 1000 ng/ml 500 ng/ml
PCP 25 ng/ml 25 ng/ml


Some companies are getting around these guidelines by reporting the levels found without categorizing them as a "positive" or "negative" test. This seems to be a problem primarily with mail-in home tests rather than corporate testing.

DETECTION PERIODS
The following chart gives approximate detection periods for each substance by test type. The ranges depend on amount and frequency of use, metabolic rate, body mass, age, overall health, drug tolerance, and urine pH.

SUBSTANCE BLOOD SALIVA SWEAT URINE HAIR
Shortest Detectability - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Longest Detectability
Alcohol 12 hrs 6-12 hrs unknown 6-24 hrs (5 days with EtG) n/a
Amphetamine 12 hrs 3 days unknown 1-4 days up to 90 days
Barbiturates unknown unknown unknown 1-21 days unknown
Benzodiazepines unknown unknown unknown 1-42 days unknown
Cannabis (single use) 2-3 days 12-24 hrs unknown 2-3 days up to 90 days
Cannabis (habitual use) 2 weeks 12-24 hrs unknown up to 12 wks up to 90 days
Cocaine unknown 1 day unknown 4-5 days up to 90 days
Codeine/Morphine unknown 12-36 hrs unknown 2-4 days up to 90 days
Heroin unknown unknown unknown 2-4 days up to 90 days
Methamphetamine 1-3 days unknown unknown 3-5 days up to 90 days
PCP 1-3 days 3 days unknown 3-7 days up to 90 days

#53 Theodore Blass

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 01:02 PM

You should just shave your head say you shave all over. They cant discriminate because of that choice. They would be forced to take a urine test.



A foaf was going for a head chef position @ a major las vegas resort where he had to pass a hair sample test. He shaved everything off of his body thinking he was slick; pubes, underarms, forearms, legs, buttocks, eyebrows- the whole nine.

Goes in expecting a piss test as an alternative. They ask him to stick out his hands & continue to take fingernail clippings/scrappings.

Needless to say everything in his system showed up...and then some. He didn't even know of half the shit that was reported back to his would be employer.

Never got the job & word spreads quick in Vegas when it comes to shit like that.

Lesson of the story-

A) Vegas is the SHIT when it comes to synthetic chem funsies:puke:

B) DONT FUCK with science/modern technology. :mistrust:

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 01:25 PM

If I could say one thing to the original poster....

Not to say that finding ways around a hair folicle test isn't an appropriate topic of conversation, but further direction/attention should be paid toward the long term effects of this entire situation.

What I am saying is.....

You don't need something easy man! Doing something difficult such as beating folical examination tests to get something easy isn't the right way to go.

Well..... hang on.... maybe you do challenge yourself in other areas, and you won't bring yourself misery with this job. I couldn't know unless you have said elsewhere.

But you are wasting time searching for ease. Or is it that you're responsiblities and desires don't require you to form much more for yourself?

Ahhhhh! Okay! I understand now!

Okay, YES! Go and take the easy job and beat the test, but at least use the funds towrd true desires. :-D

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 05:53 PM

WOW, Greatinfo Hax thanks, one thing to keep in mind is they have changed some of the levels that constitute a positive vs negative test. Any Idea what date that was written? I seem to recall reading somewhere the levels were last changed in 2003, not certain though...

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Posted 01 January 2010 - 12:26 PM

Doesn't really matter at this point.
Only thing you can do is wait for your hair/fingernails to grow out.

Used to work w/ a guy who spent time in a facility in Antarctica
Mandatory leave every 6-8 months for psych eval in the States
Mandatory hair follicle test prior to return to work.

I met the guy 'cause he was "dirty"
He passed (our) company's urine screen but knew he couldn't pass the better test. He was working with us to kill time for a bit while his hair grew.

During our work together, he told me of a fellow who had shaved his body.
Fingernails is what they usually go for but they wanted to teach this guy a lesson. Bent him over and plucked one of his forgotten rectal hairs for a test sample.
Walk in shaved - you'll be laughed outta the exam room.

Change your career - or - change your indulgences
Sounds like the ppl you work for are pretty serious

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Posted 05 January 2010 - 02:06 PM

Anal plucking? Youch.

#58 venixxx

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 01:56 PM

Well I passed my hair test!!!!! I smoked trees (no other drugs) for a month prior to my hair test every day. here are the specifics....
13 days clean till hair test (takes about 2 weeks for your hair to grow out everything that is in your system)
white, 21 years old, brown hair, fast metabolism, work out daily

The abstract here is that the basics (bleach, amonia) open the outer layer of your hair and allow the toxin wash and zydot to do its thing. I didnt have much time to do this process. If you have more time I would space out the bleach and redyes. The last bleach/redye and zydot treatment should be preformed as close to the test time as possible and make sure not to wear hats/use combs/touch your hair with anything that you used on your hair before because they will recontaminate your hair. Sweating will also recontaminate your hair so stay cool. I was also washing my sheets and pillow case inbetween treatments. DON'T SHAVE YOUR HAIR IT IS A DEAD GIVE AWAY TO THE TESTING FACILITY!!!! you also need at least 1.5" of hair for them to take a sample I cut mine to 2" because it was less hair to treat therefore less products to buy.

1. wash with dawn/other hand dish washing soap (removes other products from your hair)

2. bleach hair using 40 volume developer and blue powdered bleach both products came from sallys beauty supply but you had to have a cosmotology licence to obtain these products so.....

3. redyed hair using a hair dye product with amonia in it and a 20 volume developer(again sally's beauty supply)

4. washed out dye with Toxin Wash two times and then rinse with DISTILLED water (had to order online)

5. wait 2 days and follow 1-4 again

6. wait 2 days (day of test) and follow 1-4 again

7. (day of test) Full zydot treatment (got it at my local head shop can also be ordered online)

8. wait a while and the employer called me back and asked me to start in a week or so... yay

some people also apply a baking soada paste to their hair on the days inbetween bleach and redyes for about 45min. This is another basic solution, I passed w/o it however.

in the end NO you dont have to wait for your hair/finger nails to grow out

Thanks to jerryG who developed this process
Cheers topia!

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 04:29 PM

hey man ultra cleanse works... I've tried it. and got the job after the interview the first drug screening is hair test. and after being hired for the position company's usually rely on random piss test after a probationary period ( cost effective) hair test cost around 400$ to preform when all is said and dun. The piss test on the other hand are about 5 to 10$.. so do the math a greedy ass company wont pay that much each time.. the choice is ultimately yours but i went threw what your going threw and the only way to be sure is to try it and then you'll know for sure.. but breath easy my friend you'll be fine eather way




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