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#1 mjshroomer

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 09:12 PM

Not sure if anyone here has seen these or not.

This is a species I came upon in Thailand on an excursion with four participants, 3 males and one female. Travis canaday found this while we were scouring a rice paddie in Ban Tai, Koh Samui,

Now there is a Raggae bar and restaurant at the edge of the field which serves, at some times of the year,m shroom omelettes and shakes. However, I have been in this field at least fifty times or more over a twenty year period and mostly found specimens of Panaeolus antillarum and Conocybe species.

Only a few cubes, but they grow there because the restaurant has had them. They also serve fresh squirrel which they have in cages inside. I went in there once and saw these two beautiful red fox colored giant squirrels. IT was pouring rain, a heavy monsoon rain and I went inside to get shelter. I noticed the squirrels and thought how cute and then some guy ordered one for dinner.

Anyway, on this particular day, Travis Canaday called me and my friends, Nataya, Chief Ill Eagle of the Shroomry and Thai Guy Mike Acevado over to look at a mushroom he found in buffalo manure in wild grasses four to six feet in height.

The mushroom was so violet on the caps for the spore deposit I figured itf it was a new species I would name it Psilocybe violacea (In a forth coming paper).

However, after Guzmán examined the specimens, we learned it was an already known species, Psilocybe pegleriana.

I grew some and here is the original violet capped spore deposit specimens in situ and then the fruiting in a mycobag and the 2nd flush fruit bodies.

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 09:19 PM

Amazing looking strain mjohn

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 09:25 PM

Thats a great story. Too bad it was a known species, that would have been really exciting for you.

pic of the month nominee hands down: :bow:

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 09:30 PM

what's in the bag ?

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 10:03 PM

what's in the bag ?


Pasteurized wheat straw and cow (not horse my bad,getting older) manure with stable shavings.
Workman also grew some and so did Professor Sunisa and us at Chulalongkorn in Bangkok.

the workman photos and others cannot be shown as they are part of a study in a 140 page paper on species from Southeast Asia which have cultivation of new species and one already know, as well as chemical analysis, DNA sequencing, SEM photograph by me and Dr. Sihanonth, and a follow up of 20 years of continuous research in Burma, Thailand, Malaysia, Bali, Cambodia and Vietnam. The paper is mostly finished and Rick Strassman will review it for us and we are only waiting, may take yup to six more months for the rest of the DNA sequencing due to other projects in Thailand currently taking precedence over the DNA completion.

There are more images of this cultivation but I cannot post them at the moment.

Glad all like the cult job. It was amazing. They grew in a manner similar to a single mason jar of them which Workman cultivated and those also grew like spaghetti.

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 10:13 PM

Awesome--so cool!

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 10:13 PM

Thanks mj!
Heres Guzman's description of the mushroom..

Psilocybe pegleriana Guzmán, Doc. Mycol. 29: 43. 2000.
Figs. 9-12.
Pileus 10–15 mm, hemispheric to almost convex, brown at
centre turning ochraceous to the margin; surface dry,
glabrous, hygrophanous, margin entire, non-striate.
Lamellae adnate to slightly subdecurrent, membranous, sub
crowded, dark grayish brown with a distinct whitish margin.
Stipe 33-65 × 2-3 mm, central, cylindrical, pale brownish and
white at base, glabrous, slightly striate. Partial veil
membranous, white and dark violaceous on the upper surface
due the spore deposition, in the upper half of the stipe, near
to pileus. Context thin, fleshy, pale brown unchanging.
Basidiospores 8.5–12 × 6–8 μm, subhexagonal in frontal view,
sub ellipsoid in side view, smooth, thick walled with a broad
germ pore, dark brown. Basidia up to 32 × 8.5 μm, clavate,
bearing four sterigmata. Pleurocystidia absent.
Cheilocystidia 21-27 × 4.5-6 μm, mainly lageniform, hyaline,
thin walled. Pileipellis an ixocutis of prostrate hyphae pale
pigmented. Hymenophoral trama regular. Clamp connections
present.

Habitat: gregarious on cow dung in pastures.

Remarks: This species was confused with the Asiatic
mushroom
P. pseudobullacea (Petch) Pegler (PEGLER, 1977;
G
UZMÁN, 1983) and also with P. merdaria (Fr.) Ricken (GUZMÁN

et al ., 1977). However, the annulus and the lack of
pleurocystidia separate
P. pegleriana from that species, as
discussed by G
UZMÁN (2000). In spite of being recently
described,
P. pegleriana has been reported from several
localities, as for example Ecuador, Mexico and Venezuela
(G
UZMÁN, 2000), India (THOMAS et al., 2002), Argentina
(M
OYANO & DANIELE, 2003) and South Brazil (CORTEZ & COELHO,

2004).




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Posted 14 January 2008 - 10:40 PM

Thanks mj!
Heres Guzman's description of the mushroom..

Psilocybe pegleriana

Guzmán, Doc. Mycol. 29: 43. 2000.
Figs. 9-12.
Pileus 10–15 mm, hemispheric to almost convex, brown at
centre turning ochraceous to the margin; surface dry,
glabrous, hygrophanous, margin entire, non-striate.
Lamellae adnate to slightly subdecurrent, membranous, sub
crowded, dark grayish brown with a distinct whitish margin.
Stipe 33-65 × 2-3 mm, central, cylindrical, pale brownish and
white at base, glabrous, slightly striate. Partial veil
membranous, white and dark violaceous on the upper surface
due the spore deposition, in the upper half of the stipe, near
to pileus. Context thin, fleshy, pale brown unchanging.
Basidiospores 8.5–12 × 6–8 μm, subhexagonal in frontal view,
sub ellipsoid in side view, smooth, thick walled with a broad
germ pore, dark brown. Basidia up to 32 × 8.5 μm, clavate,
bearing four sterigmata. Pleurocystidia absent.
Cheilocystidia 21-27 × 4.5-6 μm, mainly lageniform, hyaline,
thin walled. Pileipellis an ixocutis of prostrate hyphae pale
pigmented. Hymenophoral trama regular. Clamp connections
present.

Habitat: gregarious on cow dung in pastures.

Remarks: This species was confused with the Asiatic
mushroom
P. pseudobullacea (Petch) Pegler (PEGLER, 1977;
G
UZMÁN, 1983) and also with P. merdaria (Fr.) Ricken (GUZMÁN

et al

., 1977). However, the annulus and the lack of
pleurocystidia separate
P. pegleriana from that species, as
discussed by G
UZMÁN (2000). In spite of being recently
described,
P. pegleriana has been reported from several
localities, as for example Ecuador, Mexico and Venezuela
(G
UZMÁN, 2000), India (THOMAS et al., 2002), Argentina
(M
OYANO & DANIELE, 2003) and South Brazil (CORTEZ & COELHO,


2004).



Another paper on the same species

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 11:45 PM

This mushroom is psychoactive? If its not psychoactive why is it classified as Psilocybe?

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 11:48 PM

wow great pics!

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Posted 15 January 2008 - 01:39 AM

This mushroom is psychoactive? If its not psychoactive why is it classified as Psilocybe?


Psilocybe is the family name of a genus in the Agaricales.

BASIDIOMYCOTINA
Agaricales
Strophariaeceae
Psilocybe

The first name, Psilocybe is the genera or genus.

the last name such as cubensis is the species

While there are 135 or so species of Psilocybe which are psilocybian,

there are also approximately 88 species of Psilocybe which are not psilocybian. Psilocybine was named for the Indians who use them and for the indole in the mushrooms. The name Psilocybe means naked head or bald head (Cybe is latin for head)

For instance:
Psilocybe coprophila, Psilocybe montana, Psilocybe uda, Psilocybe elongata, Psilocybe merdaria, Psilocybe crobula, Psilocybe laticytis, PSilocybe subborealis, etc., to name a few are not psychoactive.

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Then you have other families of mushrooms which have psilocine and/or psilocybine and other tryptamine compounds. Families such as Panaeolus, Copelandia, Pluteyus, Gymnopilus, Inocybe, etc.

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Posted 15 January 2008 - 02:43 AM

Very interesting, thanks for sharing!

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Posted 15 January 2008 - 05:08 AM

hey mj i can't quite read those thumbnails mabey i'm just blind but i'd like to get a better loook at them.. btw i love that strain

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Posted 15 January 2008 - 05:11 AM

:eusa_clapi apoligize 4 my impatience, they're loadin now...i just suck at technology...awsome pics btw

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Posted 15 January 2008 - 06:21 AM

Hardcore:amazed:

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Posted 15 January 2008 - 06:35 AM

Hardcore:amazed:


Great avatar Prankster.

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Posted 15 January 2008 - 05:41 PM

Thanks. Its a pic from Naoto Hattori. Check out his site he really make cool sureal pics.

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 12:56 AM

are these psychoactive or not? still confused on that one :rasta:

that is some hellified mass of those suckers there!!!! :headbang::headbang::headbang:

That's just [email protected] amazing!

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 02:38 AM

are these psychoactive or not? still confused on that one :rasta:

that is some hellified mass of those suckers there!!!! :headbang::headbang::headbang:

That's just [email protected] amazing!


Hi Prankster, thanks for that link to the site.

No, OffTheRocker! They are not Psychoactive.

however, here is my hand holding a layer of tall shrooms.

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1200728305
Image how Copelandias grow in a mycobag with the right compost.

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 05:25 AM

Looks like they grew very well for you.
Are those edible?




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