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[mojorisin]

I usually down a few beers before a shroom ride, it helps relax me and put me in a good place. Its amazing how many beers a person can drink while on shrooms. You can destroy your liver and never feel the alcohol. Does anyone know why this is?

[philemon]

i honestly cant drink enough for any visions. but id say alchahol has certainly come in handy spiritually several times. i find its easier to pray ernestly when im a bit drunk.

not to mention i always notice colors are brighter when im drunk. i only notice that because i didnt drink till i was 22 and im only 24 now. so.. i have a pretty good before and after perspective, while alot of my friends cant remember a time before they both drank and smoked weed and cigarettes.

[Hippie3]

i don't see alcohol as psychedelic particularly.
unless all drugs are, too.

[BuckarooBanzai]

I would have to agree with Leprechaun. Alcohol *can* be a mental stimulant/psychedelic. That's a very hard state to hit and harder to maintain, though. Usually, I'll overshoot into stupid drunk or underdrink and get the "beer throbbing" headaches with nausea.

When you get the mix just right, though, alcohol can be a really nice drug. I would say the same about coke. Damn good when you get the dose just right, but damn easy to get the dose wrong.

It's all about the person and the environment and the mix, to me.

I have always found it easier to maintain an interesting state by consuming smaller amounts of various different compounds. Alcohol and cigarettes are almost always a part of the mix, unless I'm going hardcore/spiritual/delving. When I'm chowing heavy dosage, I (usually) like to stay away from alcohol.

Then again, I've enojoyed major dosage and stupid quantities of booze on more than one occasion with good (albiet VERY clumsy) results.

I don't have a drinking problem. I drink, I get drunk, I fall down. No problem.

[DJTetsu]

sounds like u've just gone into thinking something a bit deeper than it should. But I can see the point. It then questions what is a psy·che·del·ic adj.

Of, characterized by, or generating hallucinations, distortions of perception, altered states of awareness, and occasionally states resembling psychosis.

It definitely fucks with your mind, and by definition that's enough. To be able to let loose of your boundries (being a lot more social, elevated mood, etc.)
it does open a lot more possibilites (and great if given at ideal quantites, like buckaroo have stated). We could be typically missing the optimial dosage to use alcohol to its fullest psychedelic usage, but alcohol naturally invites an over-usage past that point. As I type this I realize how, in general, even if given at those quantities (I have drank all levels personally), most of the time, the drinker doesn't yell "I have visions!". Not many people do.

So alcohol naturally is not really IMHO.

But let's say if you are say a constant tripper and can direct your mind into certain other-wise none-visible Focuses* (and when you're sober), the fact that alcohol can let go of your inhibitions, you can visit certain states or thoughts with less restraint. I see it as possible enhancer to a trippy (meditative)-mind.

I do a bit of meditation sometimes when I'm a bit drunk, and sometimes that's to tell my subconscious, "hey, let's not get too fucked up tonite, aite!"

*Focus as in a meditative concentration on a particual object or sound.