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#41 Hippie3



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Posted 23 November 2005 - 08:52 AM

i would not use vermiculite to humidify my chamber
as it's very prone to cobweb mold if not vented often,
unlike perlite
which not only does a much better job of humidifying
but is also far more resistant to contams.
use perlite on chamber bottom
and save the verm. for casings/cakes

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Posted 29 November 2005 - 05:45 PM

i just taken my now open colonised grain bag out its humidity tent with perlite in the bottom & 500ml tap water mixed,took off the foil to check for contams then afew bits of perlite fell on top of the verm casing......will this damage my mycellium as it has started breaking through the verm,i really hope i havent fuk'd it at this late stage!!!!also how long will it be until fruiting??its some cubie strain & has been in a lit wardrobe for jus under 24 hours,it has a very mushroomy smell to it

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Posted 29 November 2005 - 05:47 PM


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Posted 29 November 2005 - 06:10 PM

phew,safe as

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Posted 30 November 2005 - 11:17 AM

How long has the casing layer been colonized. It usually takes about 3-7 days before pinning occurs after the casing layer has been colonised.

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Posted 30 November 2005 - 12:42 PM

ah well the mycellium has boken through the casing about 24 hours ago, my mycobag is now inside a small humidity tent with perilite at the bottom hanging in a lit wardrobe from a clothes hanger
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Posted 14 December 2005 - 12:28 AM

I was wondering if Geolite alone would create enough humidity in a simple fruiting chamber i.e. rubbermade tub, geolite, h20/H202, and BRF cakes.

I had used perlite in the past with success but geolite just seems much nicer to work with.


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Posted 14 December 2005 - 03:41 AM

i've seen several people use geolite with success..
to me it seems like it would be much cleaner then perlite
which is a big +
only reason i don't think it's used more is it is harder to find then perlite

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Posted 14 December 2005 - 06:28 AM

What is geolite?

I have been using perlite for over a year and I am fed up with the mess it makes.

I just bought some expanded clay balls, which I beleve to do the same job with regards to humidity.
anyone use these??

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Posted 14 December 2005 - 08:19 AM

What is geolite?

I have been using perlite for over a year and I am fed up with the mess it makes.

I just bought some expanded clay balls, which I beleve to do the same job with regards to humidity.
anyone use these??

yes what is geolite? even perlite can't be found in my region. however i use small red bricks clay it works excellent and easier to clean and cheap!

sorry e123low didn't mean to drag your thread.


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Posted 14 December 2005 - 09:58 AM

They all work and they all work well. Hell, even wet paper towels layed flat in the bottom of a tote will work great.
If your substrate volume to tote volume ratio is appropriate you don't need to use any other source for humidity.

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Posted 14 December 2005 - 11:15 AM

I think geolite is just balls of red clay that have been fired, ie ceramic balls of red clay. But something in the back of my head says it isn't your normal terra-cotta clay, but some other type of special clay.

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Posted 14 December 2005 - 12:58 PM

from http://www.oekotau.c...index_st_en.htm

clay pellets are a popular hydroponic
medium around the world.

Derived from a renewable and plentiful source (clay), HYDROTON is considered an ecologically sustainable medium. The clay is formed into pellets and fired in rotary kilns at 1200°C. This causes the clay to expand, like popcorn, and become porous.

HYDROTON pellets are light in weight, do not compact and are completely reusable - they can be cleaned and sterilised after use. They are also inert, pH neutral and do not contain any nutrients. The pellets drain freely and do not hold any excessive water, which is why they provide good oxygen levels around the root and why they are particularly suitable for flood and drain systems. They are also used extensively for rose growing.

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In drip irrigation systems the pellets can be mixed with a medium with better capillary action so the feed is dissipated broadly through to prevent salt build-up.

HYDROTON is a substitute for normal plant-soil and is mainly used in hydroculture / hydroponic systems as well as for decoration.

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Compared to normal soil HYDROTON offers many advantages.
The material is not only completely clean and odorless, the ideal round shape
ensures good root aeration
prevents rotting
prevents excess acidity
prevents soil pests

HYDROTON is made of clay with high water storage properties and balanced capillary action
to accelerate plant growth.

o Where can HYDROTON be used ?

For all hydroponic and hydroculture purposes,available in different grain and bag sizes:
4/8 mm round
4/8 mm UK (not round)
8/16 mm (round)
10/20 mm (round)

Rose-growers achieve good results by using size 4/8 mm.

Owing to its attractive red colour and round shape HYDROTON is an excellent
material for decoration purposes and moreover prevents salt build-up.

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Posted 14 December 2005 - 09:30 PM

Geoton = Hydroton = Hydrolite = Geolite = Grow Rox = LECA

These are all just different trade names for nuggetts of heat expanded clay. Expanded clay will work almost as well as perlite, is far less messy and is far harder to locate, even in a big city. I've only found it mail order and at hydroponics stores.

You can improve the humidity plus get fresh air with an aquairum pump and an air stone submerged under the geolite.

If you use expanded clay, you might want to rinse it off in a collander first. It's dusty as heck to start with.

Fox Farm Chunky is perlite in much larger pieces that is also easy to work with, though even harder to find.

I've got one little experimental tub that is being hydrated by three inches of hydrated coca fiber in the bottom.

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Posted 19 December 2005 - 10:04 AM

The hydroponic stores around here are always getting raided or shut down. I suggest you pay in cash and leave no trace. don't hang out there and don't visit often. Hydro stores give me the creeps! You can use an oversized piece of screen door screen between perlite and fruit to catch spills. Just empty chamber of fruit and lift out screen and clean!:dance:

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Posted 20 December 2005 - 08:47 AM

I use geo-grow-thingies exclusively. You can see them in my time lapse video series. They work great. Rinse them first like suggested because they are dusty. I 'maintained' my rocks with a half bottle (small european bottle, not the turbo sized plastic american bottles) of hydrogenperoxide every week or so. I grow cakes right on the rocks. I've lost one thing to contam - but it was a casing NOT on the rocks....

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Posted 21 February 2006 - 08:55 PM

is there a substitute for humidity material in a small terrarium for perlite? I have "hydroton" clay hydroponics pellets that might work...any thoughts?

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Posted 21 February 2006 - 08:59 PM

They should work fine. I have seen posts with those small indoor greehouses with tubs at the bottom filled with hydroton.

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Posted 21 February 2006 - 09:00 PM

Hydroton works great for terrarium humidification, cleaner than perlite too.

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Posted 21 February 2006 - 09:24 PM

how would i prep this...i have till tomorrow to get it ready. pics up shortly maybe some pointers? this will be for cakes and this will be my first cakes so..

I have 3 ready. that will fit into one shoebox sized tub on tub. Where should i go from much hydroton?

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