No pinning pliiz help
Posted 27 March 2008 - 12:59 PM
On top of one cake is growing some kind like cotony/sponge white thing.
Humid is allmost 100%.
Sore of me bad engliiish.
Posted 27 March 2008 - 01:03 PM
Posted 27 March 2008 - 01:05 PM
Posted 27 March 2008 - 01:09 PM
Here are some helpful links. Read up on them.
Mycotopia Web Archive: <b>Double end casing tek</b>
I actually waited about two weeks before I even saw pins. Once I DEC them I saw pins within a day or two.
Everything else you are doing seems right.
I think you can get rid of that cobweb on top by spraying some diluted peroxide on it. Good luck
Posted 27 March 2008 - 01:18 PM
Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:28 PM
Right. Just click on the yellow dec to see what we're talking about.
Also, those cakes seem to be a little stressed from being too moist. I can't tell if it's the picture quality or a true yellowing of the cake. Yellowing of the cake means that they are full of water. If you can get you temperatures in the 75 degree range and increase the amount of air exchanges per day to 5 or so, that should help out. Do get a dec on the cakes first.
Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:34 PM
If the heat was too high you could dry them out. If ya don't see anything in another week scrape and dunk em...then roll and rebirth at 70-75. The temp drops usually and that maintatins the conditions...at least that was what I thought. Bags will control the temps on their own...room temp is all you need....My room gets too cold some times so I use the light as a heater and when it was snowing out I had a small spaceheater but it was always too hot. Be patient and remember that the water in the cake becomes the water in your shrooms, so if the outside is dry and leathery then you need to break that surface up.
Also, I spray my casings and cakes daily even with pins but will only spray the pins directly once a day to once every other day...not intentionally, I just usually get lazy and spray the whole FC...I always have very few aborts too...so not sure why everyone is so scared of spraying colonizing trays lately or pinning cakes...
Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:38 PM
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 03:10 PM
If after a couple days there are still no signs of pinning, those cakes look like they have crusted over and need to be opened back up. Humidity and moisture will not do that for overlay. When I worked with cakes, it was standard practice to scrape, then cold shock with a dunk in the fridge followed by DEC them. Every flush from birth on was always fast, and perfect regardless of strain.
Not being contradictive Lazlo, just saying what always worked for me when I played with the hundreds of cakes I did.
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 03:14 PM
Posted 27 March 2008 - 03:17 PM
Agree that casing will help ...gluk....