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The overseer has once again found a stray mycellic network wandering aimlessly in the desert of the unknown.
She herded all of the myc into a tub mixed with a 65/35 straw/poo-compost mix.
After mixing the straw poo compost and spawn, the whole substrate was about 3" in depth. This is the only place she had to contain the restless masses. She is not familiar with the upkeep of such an environment and is searching high and low for answers.
She has concern about overwatering her flock. Since there is no escape for any excess moisture on the bottom of the herds tub, she is concerned that water will pool there and rot the whole area, killing her faithful.
She plans on casing tonight with a 50/50 verm/peat casing layer. She asks for advice from any fellow sheppards who have experience in such a roundup.
*pictures will be posted tonight*
33 gallon tub
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, May 09 2005 07:53 AM
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Posted 09 May 2005 - 10:54 AM
A-I-R!!! Make sure your fanning them bad boys good an plenty and unless your in the rainforest i would bet that the tub has a higher chance of being too dry than too wet. Could always drill holes for draining next time ehh.
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Posted 10 May 2005 - 07:38 AM
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Pictures of the herd have been obtained. The first shows how the lid is kept on the casing. The second just shows the tub, and the third shows the tub from the outside.
The way the overseer has approached taiming her wild herd is to keep the lid ajar and compensate by misting heavily in the morning. The casing layer was applied the same night as the herd being round up. Do any of you sheppards see any reason to not case immediately?
Have a blessed day and enjoy nature.
Pictures of the herd have been obtained. The first shows how the lid is kept on the casing. The second just shows the tub, and the third shows the tub from the outside.
The way the overseer has approached taiming her wild herd is to keep the lid ajar and compensate by misting heavily in the morning. The casing layer was applied the same night as the herd being round up. Do any of you sheppards see any reason to not case immediately?
Have a blessed day and enjoy nature.
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Posted 10 May 2005 - 11:39 AM
ive never seen anyone keep the lid of a full casing tub open like that. hope it doesnt dry out on you. how are you determining if its losing too much moisture?
good luck, i hope it flushes well for you
btw when it does, how do you plan on rehyrating it? dunk? injecting water?
good luck, i hope it flushes well for you
btw when it does, how do you plan on rehyrating it? dunk? injecting water?
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Posted 10 May 2005 - 01:01 PM
I keep my lids a little crooked too. Not as much as that, but some. If your having doubts about maintaining your water weight, you can get a good feel of the tubs weight from the time you case it. Then try to keep that feel of the weight throughout the incubation period. It's really key not to over water them throughout this time. Then when your rhizo coverage is to your liking and you're going to fruit, then you can add a little more weight so the casing can sustain a nice flush. It takes time to get it right. Good luck!
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Posted 10 May 2005 - 01:16 PM
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Looper I am happy that you took the time to calm the doubts the overseer has about her herd. Getting a feel for the general weight is a very nice tip, and has been carved into the wall of executable knowledge.
So far the overseer has been keeping a close eye on the herd making sure to keep an eye out for any dry wolves that may be tip toeing towards the tub. Her method is to grab a pinch of the casing blanket and squeeze it between her sterile fingers. She mists according to how wet or dry it has become.
As with all learning there is a chance for "failure". But there is no such thing as failure if knowledge was obtained during the learning process. Jars of myc come and go as they please, some are too wild to be tamed and others have a desire to be herded and domesticated. If this flock of myc falls, another shall rise another time.
Looper I am happy that you took the time to calm the doubts the overseer has about her herd. Getting a feel for the general weight is a very nice tip, and has been carved into the wall of executable knowledge.
So far the overseer has been keeping a close eye on the herd making sure to keep an eye out for any dry wolves that may be tip toeing towards the tub. Her method is to grab a pinch of the casing blanket and squeeze it between her sterile fingers. She mists according to how wet or dry it has become.
As with all learning there is a chance for "failure". But there is no such thing as failure if knowledge was obtained during the learning process. Jars of myc come and go as they please, some are too wild to be tamed and others have a desire to be herded and domesticated. If this flock of myc falls, another shall rise another time.
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Posted 13 May 2005 - 07:40 AM
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The herd has become restless. Misting and fanning have engulfed the heard in an uproar or energy. They are trying to break free of their blanket and constantly push right through the casing layer.
As an inexperienced overseer, she was unaware of how to effectively round the group up. First she misted directly but the next morning more of the herd had poked through to support the first uprising. This was unacceptable and the overseer calmly layed another casing layer over the overlaying herd to quell their energy. A gentle mist was then calmly layed across the layer to allow for a drink and time to relax.
Overlay seems to be the herds way of expelling their thoughts and energy but the overseer has patience and love to give in return.
The herd has become restless. Misting and fanning have engulfed the heard in an uproar or energy. They are trying to break free of their blanket and constantly push right through the casing layer.
As an inexperienced overseer, she was unaware of how to effectively round the group up. First she misted directly but the next morning more of the herd had poked through to support the first uprising. This was unacceptable and the overseer calmly layed another casing layer over the overlaying herd to quell their energy. A gentle mist was then calmly layed across the layer to allow for a drink and time to relax.
Overlay seems to be the herds way of expelling their thoughts and energy but the overseer has patience and love to give in return.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 06:50 AM
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Overlay is abundant, patching has been done for days and direct misting has been stopped and only sprayed against the container walls. The overseer does not know what to do now besides wait and hope.
Overlay is abundant, patching has been done for days and direct misting has been stopped and only sprayed against the container walls. The overseer does not know what to do now besides wait and hope.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 08:28 AM
Doesn't look like overlay to me... Looks fine, just wait...
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 01:47 PM
I would recommend in the future to not case until full colonization of the substrtate. If you'll allow the substrate to fully colonize, the mycelium will be exposed to light for a few days before the casing layer is applied. This will cause the mycelium to change gears, and it won't fully colonize your casing layer the way it will if all is put on at once.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 02:34 PM
wow that doesnt even look like a casing layer anymore. doesnt even look like verm and peat.
hope it fruits well for you
keep us posted
hope it fruits well for you
keep us posted
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Posted 19 May 2005 - 08:29 AM
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The tub casing layer is totally covered. Wax paper was placed on the casing for a few days but misting was necessary to keep the heard hydrated. Misting of the walls have caused some water damage on the top layer of myc where the wax paper did not reach. There are pins forming sporatically. Misting will be stopped totally now unless the RH in the chamber drops very low in which case misting will be used as needed. The layer is very funny looking to the overseer, lots of little ball shapes, who knows what is going on.
The wax paper was taken off and now the mushrooms are in the fresh RH tub air. The overseer hopes this isnt much of a problem. The pictures of the herd that you see are of just a tiny part of the corner of the tub. It is just repeated all over the casing layer.
The tub casing layer is totally covered. Wax paper was placed on the casing for a few days but misting was necessary to keep the heard hydrated. Misting of the walls have caused some water damage on the top layer of myc where the wax paper did not reach. There are pins forming sporatically. Misting will be stopped totally now unless the RH in the chamber drops very low in which case misting will be used as needed. The layer is very funny looking to the overseer, lots of little ball shapes, who knows what is going on.
The wax paper was taken off and now the mushrooms are in the fresh RH tub air. The overseer hopes this isnt much of a problem. The pictures of the herd that you see are of just a tiny part of the corner of the tub. It is just repeated all over the casing layer.
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Posted 19 May 2005 - 10:49 AM
Those ball shapes look like hyphael knots (sp), a lot which should (hopefully) soon turn into pins. :)
If that's the case, you're going to have one hell of a pinset!
If that's the case, you're going to have one hell of a pinset!
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Posted 19 May 2005 - 11:22 AM
:) I saw pins! Nice looking tub. Good job!
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Posted 19 May 2005 - 03:16 PM
Nice job! That casing is really lookin like it's gunna go off!
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Posted 19 May 2005 - 09:43 PM
update us with pics soon!
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Posted 21 May 2005 - 07:17 AM
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Lots of pins, small thin entities so far. The overseer is anxious to see how they turn out.
Lots of pins, small thin entities so far. The overseer is anxious to see how they turn out.
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Posted 21 May 2005 - 10:55 AM
what happens if you mist pins that small? do they abort or are they large enough to grow through it. i know some people mist when they are about 1/4inch. id be afraid to abort them if i were you chi. how are you keeping the tub rh up?
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Posted 21 May 2005 - 11:19 AM
Yeah ML...i think you're right, misting pins causes aborts.
Only water the casing untill the mycelia breaks thru the layer.
I've found with tub grows, the RH maintains itself.
This is because tub grows are sealed enclosed spaces
and the substrate and casing layer provides all the mositure needed for good RH.
Sometimes light misting on the walls is needed in bigger tubs,
especially after fanning or introduction of fresh air.
-Lookin' good chikarma!
Only water the casing untill the mycelia breaks thru the layer.
I've found with tub grows, the RH maintains itself.
This is because tub grows are sealed enclosed spaces
and the substrate and casing layer provides all the mositure needed for good RH.
Sometimes light misting on the walls is needed in bigger tubs,
especially after fanning or introduction of fresh air.
-Lookin' good chikarma!
