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#1 altered_states

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Posted 11 May 2005 - 06:04 PM

That's right...
I started a thread on nothing but poop.
Just thought these photos might help somebody.

They're both the same shit; The second pic is just broken up...
Third pic is something I never thought that I would do when I grow up... (good thing that hasn't happened)
I won't know what it looks like after pasteurization until tomorrow. (new shit to me)

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#2 highflyer

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Posted 11 May 2005 - 06:50 PM

Looks like the beginnings of success.

Break the poo up even a little further than that next time.

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Posted 12 May 2005 - 01:48 AM

Thank you very much, HF.
Here's how I'm trying to look at it:
Success is inevitable...
It's only a matter of time.
I'm relentless when it comes to this shit.
(positive attitude)

So... You're saying to break up my nuggets to the size that I would break up my nuggets? ;)

I'll grind it up next time.
I have a good feeling about this poo...
That thought mildly frightens me.

Peace,
AS

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Posted 12 May 2005 - 05:50 AM

looks like the right shit
;)

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Posted 12 May 2005 - 07:27 AM

So, the white stuff in the poo, is that firefang?

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Posted 12 May 2005 - 09:47 AM

you all break it up before pastuerization?

#7 altered_states

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Posted 12 May 2005 - 10:55 AM

This is my first time,
But more surface area, in general, makes things move along faster. (ie. cooking a butchered steer instead of trying to cook an entire steer)
Sorry to all you vegetarians; First example that popped into my head... Mmmm, steak.
I'd much rather avoid the possibility of contamination than to fight contamination later.

I asked around and the concensus seems to be that it should be broken up.
Not necessarily because it needs it, but because it might need it.
Some of those nuggets are pretty tough.

I am fairly certain that the white stuff is firefang.
There is a color picture in TMC of compost ready for spawning.
It looks like the pictured, "whitish colonies of Actinomycetes."
It's not mold or anything; This poo was outdoors, in direct sunlight, in a compost pile.

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Posted 12 May 2005 - 01:06 PM

So do you use completely dried old poo? My boss has a horse and he said I could have all the poo I want (who woulda thot lol) and Ive been looking into poo for a short time now. I see a lot of folks with pics of strong success using poo. Good thread and I hope to see pics of beautiful success.

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Posted 12 May 2005 - 03:59 PM

So do you use completely dried old poo? My boss has a horse and he said I could have all the poo I want (who woulda thot lol) and Ive been looking into poo for a short time now. I see a lot of folks with pics of strong success using poo. Good thread and I hope to see pics of beautiful success.


That's a nice fringe benefit. ;)

Yes, you must use completely dried, old poo.
If it isn't in that condition, most people seem to let it sun-dry.

If you plan on composting, you want it fresh and you want a lot.

In, "The Mushroom Cultivator", 90% straw and 10% poo is referred to as "horse manure".
It's the stable bedding that the horses piss, shit, and trample on.
Perfect for composting, but not ready for mycelium.

Find out if there is a horse manure pile...
If there is a large enough pile that gets rained on, the dung will already be composted or partially composted.
Much easier than hiking a horse trail, picking up nuggets as you go.
I tried that for about an hour, smoked a bowl, then hiked back to my car.
I can't even ponder a guess as to how long it would have taken to collect enough poo in that manner.

I was looking for old, gray horse nuggets when I was hiking and shoveling.
Like in the OGBDLichen TEK (Old Gray Bovine Droppings), minus the Bovine part.
This is what you want if you intend to pasteurize and spawn.
Soliver mentioned that he likes to dig towards the middle of the pile for the "black gold"
I did this and found steaming hot shit just a few feet in.
I went for an assortment of shit, hoping that I could use at least some of it.

And thanks... I also hope to see pics of beautiful, bountiful success.

Updated Pic (sort of):

Pillowcase after hanging above a sink basin for 26.5 hours.
I squeezed the shit out of it, but it still seems too wet.

Any suggestions???

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#10 highflyer

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Posted 12 May 2005 - 06:16 PM

You will probably have to squeeze it out a little bit once you pull it out of the bag for spawning. No need to let it drain or squeeze the bag anymore. Get er spawned.

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Posted 12 May 2005 - 10:34 PM

You will probably have to squeeze it out a little bit once you pull it out of the bag for spawning. No need to let it drain or squeeze the bag anymore. Get er spawned.


I'm on it.

A few Q's for everyone:

What type of container do you like to use for horse poo?

Are there advantages to casing at spawning? Disadvantages? (what would you do?)

Aside from dehydration and contaminant protection, what are the advantages and disadvantages?

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Posted 12 May 2005 - 10:41 PM

Any opaque container will work well for poo. All sizes work great.

Do not case at spawning. Case once the bulk substrate is fully colonized.

Your bulk substrate will not dry out if you dont case it right away and it will not contaminate if its pasteurized properly. There are no advantages I see to casing a bulk substrate at spawning.

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Posted 27 January 2006 - 08:15 PM

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