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#41 bixby13

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 10:09 PM

Yes the caps were initially brown just like the rest. Thank you all for your input.

#42 Theytellmethegootch

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 11:02 PM

Do you think its still edible if it looks like that?

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 11:49 PM

I would not eat that fresh haha but dried in some tea and its all good.

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 08:20 AM

Ok, good morning everyone. These are this morning's pictures of FOAF's grow. It seems that the "ghosts" are still growing. But, from what I can gather....Verticillium?

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#45 Hippie3

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 08:28 AM

did you inadvertently spray bleach or lysol nearby ?

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 08:36 AM

weird,
its like the outer layer stopped growing but the inner kept striving on.:special:

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 08:40 AM

did you inadvertently spray bleach or lysol nearby ?

No man. Do you think FOAF's store-bought Spring water could be slightly base/acid? It seems they're doing this once they reach a certain size. Caps relatively an inch.:cry:

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 08:41 AM

weird,
its like the outer layer stopped growing but the inner kept striving on.

Yeah, are you talking about the penis?:pirate: It's purple even.

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 08:44 AM

then what was see was likely caused
by chemical residues.

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 08:45 AM

are your shrooms' aromatic like the first rain in spring , JK :D

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 08:56 AM

then what was see was likely caused
by chemical residues.



Ah well.... ehem. That cake was bleach dunked. But was clean dunk 12 hrs following.

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 09:42 AM

how long was the bleach dip ?
dilution used ?

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 10:25 AM

is that a deep depression in the cake in that first cake pic? kind of looks
like a gouge in the cake; like a bacteria infection. But my depth perception
might be off, can't really tell if thats going into the cake or just some verm
on the outside of the cake. I'd say that if you have just the one cake and
just the one casing, you should put them in two different chambers. the
cake doesn't need 6 FAE a day all by itself. I'd say you are drying it out.
The cake itself is bluing prematurely and the fruits aren't looking all that
healthy. The caps on the cake seem to be breaking away early and the
splitting of that one cap and the darkening of the others would make me
think that the cake is drying out. the casing does look dry and I wouldn't
mist it heavily at this point, unless you do as stated and give it more
FAE to dry up the pooling water. Another option is that since the sub is
pulling away from the sides, you can pour a little bit of water in that gap
and totally skip watering the top at all. it would be like doing a dunk
while the casing is fruiting. let it soak for about six hours and then pour
the extra water out carefully. that shouldn't damage the fruits at all.
I saw something in the archives called the chronic tek that would be more
(imo) suitable for that one cake than that big terrarium. A small
enclosed space creates the perfect environment around the surface of
the cake for pin production. It's like the next best thing to an actual
casing all around the cake. good luck!

p.s. - PE caps will tend to darken to that color when they get mature
but yours seem to be doing it too early. It's actually not a bad harvest
from the cake at all but the cake (in my eyes) looks to be struggling
and you probably could get a better flush out of it. Is it a 1/2 pint cake
or a full pint?

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#54 bixby13

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 10:53 AM

The 1/200 bleach dip was 20 min. But that was quite a while ago. It had a healthy myc return and had since looked drying. Water was dripped occasionally on top verm but not much. It was given a good amount today as well as the base verm where there was no myc growth and the casing was water via the side all round but not more the 3/4 cup total . Appearance in the cakes has improved and the casing appears to have picked up the speed. FOAF is crossing his fingers

They are Pint BRF cakes.

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 10:55 AM

The 1/200 bleach dip was 20 min
Appearance in the cakes has improved and the casing appears to have picked up the speed

both good.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 08:50 AM

Cakes have a short life anyway, relatively speaking. At some point, and you have to decide where that point is for yourself, putting more effort into a few problematic cakes is less effective as a means of getting more mushrooms than putting your efforts into brand new cakes.

The more vermiculite and rice flour you get under your fingernails, the better you get at this hobby, and the fewer strange problems like this you'll have. The closer an eye you keep on your grows, the faster you develop a "sixth sense" for how happy your cakes are or what they might need.

We can read all about the science of growing, but we have to teach ourselves the "art," so the most important thing is to keep doing it!

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Posted 30 July 2007 - 08:30 PM

I just rolled a quid from two bugler papers and inside was 1 1\2 grams dry aborts and bullets from an Amazonian strain. I held the quid in my mouth between gum & cheek for like 45 minutes and I was starting to feel it a little so I chewed and swallowed it. I will write more tomorrow to tell you how it goes on aborts grown from VBRF cakes dunked in coffee.

Interesting combinations. And I just wanna say, as a newbie, thanks for being simply friendly enthusiasts.
We owe it to our predecessors to take our TEKs and whatnot to the next level!! Ingenuity! Simply being loved is more than enough.




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