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#1 pollyester

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 11:23 AM

i have o.c.d. . mine are spores, water, coir, corn. i'm covetous of the giants i have seen grown outdoor in poo. you can't wash a shroom, so isn't it icky if not downright bad to eat mushrooms that have pushed their entire body length in poo?



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Posted 21 June 2008 - 11:29 AM

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 12:18 PM

wow, that was insightful, thanks.

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 12:23 PM

You can wash a shroom but the fruit body has very minimal contact with the manure.
You can cut off the root stub and it's all good...

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 12:27 PM

i have o.c.d. . mine are spores, water, coir, corn. i'm covetous of the giants i have seen grown outdoor in poo. you can't wash a shroom, so isn't it icky if not downright bad to eat mushrooms that have pushed their entire body length in poo?



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Actually shit from the horses is very clean. All of the vegetables we eat are usually fertilized with liquid fertilizers from horse or cow manure. Most home shrooms are grown with horse manure rather than cow.

Pasturized, it is healthy to grow them.

Cubes and Copes are two species which grow naturally in cow manure in pasturelands and people eat them right out of the shit. They eat handfuls from fresh harvested bags of shrooms they pick with bits of shit still on them.

Sometimes, a few get diarrhea but nothing bad has ever happed to someone who eats them.

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 12:38 PM

I would think that there is nothing bad about eating them from shit. Many of us have and many still will. The question is can you get over the fact they grow from shit, and eat them, or cant you? That is the good thing you dont have to use shit at home.

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 01:27 PM

thanks guys, i might just try them for ornamental purposes.


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Posted 22 June 2008 - 05:15 PM

isn't it icky if not downright bad to eat mushrooms that have pushed their entire body length in poo?


They don't exactly grow through the poo. Pins form on the surface and then expand from there. Little bits of poop might get stuck to the caps as they mature, but that's not quite the same as pushing through it. I guess they could be thought of like little trees; their trunks don't rise as they grow, they only expand outward.

And to relieve any concern about consuming poop, you could make a tea or tincture out of them.

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 05:24 PM

Cow shit and horse shit dosn't have the deadly ecoli bacteria that exists in human shit. It's pretty much perfectly composted grass!

In Hindu, vedict texts, any animal stool is considered as impure, except cow. It is also scientifically proved that cow urine and stool contain antiseptic agents.

People worship cows, even drink their piss, and cook food using their feces. What a difference in culture we have here in the US!

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 05:40 PM

Many farmers in North America use manure as their main fertilizer. Spreading manure is a dirty job but it feels like you are replenishing the land.

Here's one way its being done in the US ... with Percheron horses.


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Posted 23 June 2008 - 01:03 PM

They don't exactly grow through the poo. Pins form on the surface and then expand from there. Little bits of poop might get stuck to the caps as they mature, but that's not quite the same as pushing through it. I guess they could be thought of like little trees; their trunks don't rise as they grow, they only expand outward.
And to relieve any concern about consuming poop, you could make a tea or tincture out of them.

Mycelilium in manured soil can grow straight through cow shit from the ground where they are growing out of or up through the shit to the air.

This is common.

These mushrooms may also grow from the bottom of decomposed manure.

There are, posted on my site, three photographs of Copelandia cyanescens growing under a cow pie which shows them after the pie has been turned over.

Here are the images of overturned manure pies show Copelandia cyanescens growing from the bottom of a cow pie.

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1214243158

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There is also a page of a 21-day growth at my site under the species page shows a 21-day growth of Copelandia tropicalis. This growth is form fresh manure which came formm a cows extra stomach where the mycellia grew. Whent he cow shit, the mushrooms came up the next day. You can see how dark the fresh manure is. I walked the trail along where these were growing on Kualoa Ranch near Chinaman's Hat for three days before the shrooms appeared and there was no shit. On the forth day of my return, the shrooms and cowpie were as you see them. I came back every three days for 7 photoshoots in a 21-day period. AS you can see in the first few images of this growth, there is no decomposed manure which is thier natural habitat. It is from fresh manue.

In Southeast Asia, and much of all of Asia, 90% of all vegetables are grown with human excretement. Think about that one. When the Aids scare was at its height in the 1980s, many Thais refused to buy their vegetables form the open markets out of fear of catching aids. The prime Minister of Thailand had to make a public telebvision announcement that the mosquitos who laid their eggs where human food was growing would not get aids form the mosquitos who may have fed on humans who had the virus.
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Posted 23 June 2008 - 06:12 PM

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 06:21 PM

YUMMMEEEEEE

Most of the better gardeners I know love to add cow manure to their compost. Some like a bit of chickenshit, too, as long as it's well rotted. And the veggies taste great. That's good organic food. So there's nothing wrong with mushrooms grown in poo.

Bad news is, even good shit can't make the shrooms taste good.

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 06:27 PM

Maybe the bad taste is a heads up. Can you imagine if they were good like potato chips....

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 08:48 PM

Mycelilium in manured soil can grow straight through cow shit from the ground where they are growing out of or up through the shit to the air.
This is common.


Okey Dokey, then allow me to modify my earlier statement:

You don't have to pick the ones that grew through the poo. Little bits of poop might get stuck to the caps of the cleaner ones as they mature, but you can just flick those off which is not the same as eating one that wriggled its way through shit and God knows what else.


Fixed!


(BTW: I've composted my own shit and grown veggies with it before as well; it works great if the rules are followed and best of all, if I was what I ate then I didn't change a bit! :headbang:)

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 10:42 PM

hmm, this question is like 'is eating mushrooms grown on rotting wood bad?' or like 'is eating vegetables from my own composted shit bad?'

i like that idea TV, have always flushed the toilet and thought, where does my shit go? *the river, while the solids at the end of the process are sent to a large hay farm.

so wouldnt it all make more sense to send all our poop (retool our water treatment and sewage) to a hot composter, and/or a worm composter, that gets rid all the shit we consume and then sell it to companies or give it back to the citizens to grow food. this way our water treatment system doesnt have to clean our shit, just our water, the same pipes for the garbage disposal could lead to this composting tank. dont we drink our treated shit and pee water?

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 12:26 PM

hmm, this question is like 'is eating mushrooms grown on rotting wood bad?' or like 'is eating vegetables from my own composted shit bad?'

i like that idea TV, have always flushed the toilet and thought, where does my shit go? *the river, while the solids at the end of the process are sent to a large hay farm.

so wouldnt it all make more sense to send all our poop (retool our water treatment and sewage) to a hot composter, and/or a worm composter, that gets rid all the shit we consume and then sell it to companies or give it back to the citizens to grow food. this way our water treatment system doesnt have to clean our shit, just our water, the same pipes for the garbage disposal could lead to this composting tank. dont we drink our treated shit and pee water?


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What is poop made of? <o:p></o:p>
About 3/4 of your average turd is made of water. Of course, this value is highly variable - the water content of diarrhea is much higher, and the amount of water in poop that has been retained (voluntarily or otherwise) is lower. Water is absorbed out of fecal material as it passes through the intestine, so the longer a turd resides inside before emerging, the drier it will be. Of the remaining portion of the turd, about 1/3 is composed of dead bacteria. These micro corpses come from the intestinal garden of microorganisms that assist us in the digestion of our food. Another 1/3 of the turd mass is made of stuff that we find indigestible, like cellulose, for instance. This indigestible material is called "fiber," and is useful in getting the turd to move along through the intestine, perhaps because it provides traction. The remaining portion of the turd is a mixture of fats such as cholesterol, inorganic salts like phosphates, live bacteria, dead cells and mucus from the lining of the intestine, and protein. <o:p></o:p>
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Why does poop stink? <o:p></o:p>
Poop stinks as a result of the products of bacterial action. Bacteria produce smelly, sulfur-rich organic compounds such as indole, skatole, and mercaptans, and the inorganic gas hydrogen sulfide. These are the same compounds that give farts their odor. <o:p></o:p>
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Why is poop brown? <o:p></o:p>
The color comes mainly from bilirubin, a pigment that arises from the breakdown of red blood cells in the liver and bone marrow. The actual metabolic pathway of bilirubin and its byproducts in the body is very complicated, so we will simply say that a lot of it ends up in the intestine, where it is further modified by bacterial action. But the color itself comes from iron. Iron in hemoglobin in red blood cells gives blood its red color, and iron in the waste product bilirubi gives rise to its brown color. <o:p></o:p>
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What other colors of poop are possible? <o:p></o:p>
Poop is mostly shades of brown or yellow, but other colors can arise under certain circumstances. For example, someone with a bleeding ulcer might have tarry black poop from the presence of partially digested blood. Bleeding in the intestine, from an anal fissure or split, for example, can stain the poop red. Some illnesses in babies give them green or even blue-green poop. But another source of blue poop in children is more innocent: it can come from eating a concentrated source of blue food coloring such as ice cream. Intense red food coloring can produce bright red poop. Sometimes brightly colored foods pass through the gut almost unchanged, and the turd may be speckled with bright red fragments such as pimentos, or bright yellow kernels of corn. One can experience white poop after consuming a barium milkshake for the purposes of getting an x-ray of the upper gastrointestinal tract. <o:p></o:p>
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Many animals eat poop on a regular basis. These include rabbits, rodents, gorillas, many insects such as dung beetles and flies, and yes, dogs. (Keep that in mind the next time a dog wants to lick you!) Herbivores such as rabbits and rodents eat their own poop because their diet of plants is hard to digest efficiently, and they have to make two passes at it to get everything out of the meal. This is equivalent to a cow chewing its cud; only cows are able to re-eat their food without having to poop it out first. Another reason why animals eat poop is that poop contains vitamins produced by their intestinal bacteria. The animal is unable to absorb the vitamins through the intestinal wall, but can get at them by eating the poop. Another reason that animals such as dogs eat poop is that poop contains a certain amount of protein. Dogs are particularly fond of cat poop because cat poop is high in protein. I had a friend with a dog and a cat, and he never had to clean the kitty litter. The dog took care of it. <o:p></o:p>
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Is there any way to prevent corn from getting in your poop? <o:p></o:p>
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In humans, soft poop is really one long, mostly continuous sausage before it comes out. It gets its "link" look because we tend to pinch off lengths of it with the anal sphincter as the poop emerges. If a person pinches hard enough, the poop separates into several turd units. If the person doesn't pinch that hard, the turds may stay connected. If you can remain sufficiently relaxed, you can produce an awesomely long poop that will coil up inside the toilet. <o:p></o:p>
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What causes the burning sensation sometimes associated with poop? <o:p></o:p>
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[COLOR=white]Why does some poop hurt when it comes out? Turds can get very large and dry if a person is constipated, causing painful stretching of the anal opening. Pooping can also hurt if the person has hemorrhoids. Hemorrhoids are engorged veins in the anal area. A doctor once described them to me as "varicose veins of the anus," which suggests that the valves in the veins that are supposed to keep the blood flowing in the right direction have gotten messed up. Pooping can also be painful if the person suffers from an anal fissure, a tear in the tissue of the rectum.
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 04:26 PM

That is officially the most bizarre yet informative post I have run across which I read all the way through.

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 05:06 PM

Fascinating. The author really knows his shit.

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 05:14 PM

now that was the shit :lol:




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