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crazy story. i feel bad for the guy, his daughter, and the bear, sad that their trying to screw him over so bad.
man arrested for caring for orphaned animal
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weed4all
, Jun 25 2008 01:24 AM
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 07:33 AM
sad story
if it's true.
but who knows, maybe he killed the mother and stole the cub.
no way to be sure what happened in forest .
if it's true.
but who knows, maybe he killed the mother and stole the cub.
no way to be sure what happened in forest .
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 09:44 AM
This guy stole a bear cub outta the forest to make himself and his daughter happy..
How narcissistic is that?
Even if the bear cub really was on his death bed,
There's a reason why wildlife managers allow large mammals to die in the field these days.
They provide food to others, that's the circle of life.
Who knows if this cub really was orphaned to begin with?
and who's to say the bear couldn't have made it on it's own?
Living a real life in forest, not riding around on this chump's bicycle.
And now sent to live in a zoo, what did this guy think would happen?
How bought next time your child's upset you buy them an icecream,
or better yet sit down, talk to them, console them to the root of the problem.
Instead of nabbing a wild animal away from its life (don't we have dogs for that?).
Just sad, imo.
How narcissistic is that?
Even if the bear cub really was on his death bed,
There's a reason why wildlife managers allow large mammals to die in the field these days.
They provide food to others, that's the circle of life.
Who knows if this cub really was orphaned to begin with?
and who's to say the bear couldn't have made it on it's own?
Living a real life in forest, not riding around on this chump's bicycle.
And now sent to live in a zoo, what did this guy think would happen?
How bought next time your child's upset you buy them an icecream,
or better yet sit down, talk to them, console them to the root of the problem.
Instead of nabbing a wild animal away from its life (don't we have dogs for that?).
Just sad, imo.
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 09:55 AM
I'm not sure the bear would develope such a tight bond if he had killed its mother
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 10:03 AM
lol
come now,
a baby human would not remember someone killing its' mother.
to project a grudge into a wild baby animal as if it were human
is not reasonable, imo.
the cub would bond to whoever fed it,
just like any other animal
including human babies.
you can beat a dog or even a child
and it will still love its' abuser.
if only adult people were so loving...
come now,
a baby human would not remember someone killing its' mother.
to project a grudge into a wild baby animal as if it were human
is not reasonable, imo.
the cub would bond to whoever fed it,
just like any other animal
including human babies.
you can beat a dog or even a child
and it will still love its' abuser.
if only adult people were so loving...
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 10:08 AM
you can beat a dog or even a child
and it will still love its' abuser.
:cry: That's really sad. I wish I didn't read that. It's true, but sad.
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 10:10 AM
we're not talking about a person like you or me here... this is an illiterate man from an indiginous tribe in orissa... he didn't know any better, and it's not like he's making money off of it. in his mind he was doing something right by caring for the cub and trying to console his daughter. i dont condone taking wild animals out of the wild but this is a little different imo if this really is how it happened, even the wild animal activists are trying to free him. i dont think its fair that he should serve 3 years in prison and have his child taken away from him for trying to be compasionate.
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 10:14 AM
IF it's true like he claims.
but the flip side is
the bear was an endangered species-
if you let this guy slide
next week you get more people 'finding' cubs,
until they're all gone from the wild.
the law is universal in application-
just as illegal for illiterate peasant
as for international traffickers of endangered species.
but the flip side is
the bear was an endangered species-
if you let this guy slide
next week you get more people 'finding' cubs,
until they're all gone from the wild.
the law is universal in application-
just as illegal for illiterate peasant
as for international traffickers of endangered species.
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 10:22 AM
i agree with you man but all im sayin is he might not even of known what an endangered species was until now, let alone laws about caring for wild animals, in his mind he was doing something good. but like i said "this is a little different imo IF this really is how it happened".
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 10:29 AM
hopefully he'll get a lawyer that agrees with your position.
but it is said that
ignorance of the law is no defense.
but it is said that
ignorance of the law is no defense.
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 01:23 PM
hopefully for him and his daughter you are right hippie and maby just maby he is one of those adults you spoke of in post #5 I think theres a few of them left out there they are just few and far between
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 03:29 PM
Would we prefer to read this same story two years later, when it was instead about how a full grown sloth bear mauled and killed this man's daughter?
There are many valid reasons the laws he broke are in place. Just because he has a "good excuse" isn't up to us (or the arresting officers) to consider.
It is up to the judge that sentences him to determine the appropriate application of the law. IF the circumstances are as described in the article, I doubt quite seriously that the man will receive the maximum sentence.
I think letting him get away with poaching an endangered and protected species would be a much more dangerous precident than arresting him and letting the judicial system do it's job.
There are many valid reasons the laws he broke are in place. Just because he has a "good excuse" isn't up to us (or the arresting officers) to consider.
It is up to the judge that sentences him to determine the appropriate application of the law. IF the circumstances are as described in the article, I doubt quite seriously that the man will receive the maximum sentence.
I think letting him get away with poaching an endangered and protected species would be a much more dangerous precident than arresting him and letting the judicial system do it's job.
