Posted 02 July 2008 - 04:00 AM
So I've been tossing about the idea of a trip up to the mountains/forest in early fall before it gets too cold, to blow off a very stressing year and was thinking of trying Ayahuasca for the first time. I have experienced some very, very large, heavy doses of good, clean LSD. Although I will admit, that was when I was much younger and more free. I'm very familier with smoking DMT and I've done my fair share of research on it. I extract my own DMT and get excellent, clean, clear-to-white shards. I have not tried an MAOI with smoked DMT yet and I think I would want to try that first, as it is still a shorter duration experience.
One question I have is about the time line to oral ayahuasca, how long does it really last? A lot of reports don't mention how long it lasted and the literiture differs quite a bit but I imagine that's because there are so many different ways to make it.
I would be taking "phamauasca" I guess. It would be made with either syrian rue seeds (which I have already), or Banistropsis Capi (Which I would have to still get) and clean DMT crystals. Taking it this way helps reduce the vomiting, right? I think thats what I've read.
So does anyone have any suggestions or warnings about which additives give which kind of results? Or how you like to make it/take it?
Also, diet suggestions PLEASE! I'd like to hear more of what one can eat when taking an MAOI, there is plenty of info on what not to eat.
My main reason for wanting to do this is based around spiritual healing and learning, the 20 minute smoked DMT flash is an amazing, mind opening (and shattering) experience but at least for me, it goes by so fast that it is over as soon as I can settle into it. I have a hard time gaining much more than the feeling that there is more to it than that quick peek at the infanite.
The past year for me has been a time of many unplanned changes and I've begun to have a lot of questions about our purpose in the modern world of money and wars etc... I don't mean this in a depressed way, more of a "where does this all really fit into the grand sceam" kind of way. I'm hoping to spend some time with that something infinate that I've touched for too short a time when smoking DMT and hope to gain something, although I'm not sure what that is yet I guess.
Well I've gone on way too long, your input please.
Posted 03 July 2008 - 04:59 AM
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 01:51 PM
(are you sure you don't have any info on canary grass?):eusa_sile
So it is like other common Psychedelics in length, nice.
Posted 03 July 2008 - 10:42 PM
Posted 04 July 2008 - 12:03 PM
Posted 04 July 2008 - 01:23 PM
Thank you Mr. Landy!!
i find that when eating the crystal it comes on extra fast, makes you trip fuckin harrrrd and is usually comin down quick after an hour. actual ayahuasca comes on slower, does not get you quite as high and comes down slower.
That's good to know, have you tried these methods yourself?
If so, how much is a good starting dose when using extracted freebase?
I guess I could always re-salt my spice if that has anything to do with the differences in length. DMT is in it's salt form in the bark.
I've read that taking an MAOI & crystal mixture also helps to reduce or remove the purge that seems to occur as the effects are coming on. Any truth to that?
I'm leaning towards the MAOI & extracted crystals method because, for me, it would help to insure I'm getting the full intended dose.
I don't mind the purge as the effect is coming on, but in order to get to that point, you need to get the brew down the hatch in the first place. That's always been a problem for me.
I would love to cook up the traditional ayahuasca tea, but I don't know if I would be able to get much of it down, or even half of what is needed. I realize that its part of the soul cleansing and all but my gag reflex is "trigger sensitive" and I have a very, very hard time consuming anything that is making me want to spit it out or puke. Because of this, I've always had a very hard time eating mushrooms, in fact until I learned about powdering them and packing the powder into veg capsules, I was never able to eat enough of them to actually get past a threshold experience. My gag reflex just wouldn't let me!!
So obviously I would prefer to drink a small, potent MAOI tea (probably from Syrian Rue seeds) and take a capsule of crystals. although, I was hoping to spend more than just an hour there.
Hey Blumpkin, you can start your own thread ya know. Considering you seem to have your own topic going and all.:pirate:
Posted 08 July 2008 - 10:07 PM
Posted 08 July 2008 - 10:12 PM
somehow i remembered what time i ate it, otherwise i would have guessed it took around 3000 years to wear off.
thats the funniest thing i read all day. Fuckin classic!