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Honey extract Tek for Cubensis


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#21 ramb

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 12:44 PM

i can't wait to try this myself.
great instruction, golly. thank you. :bow:

...it does kinda look like apple butter... mmmm.
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Posted 10 July 2008 - 01:45 PM

Thats real thick man, looks tasty. Ive been wanting to try a honey tek, and this one might just be the one. Awesome job man.

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 02:21 PM

You're the man, thank you! :amazed:

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 04:34 PM

Awesome write, very easy recipe. I've never done honey before. Do you think you could use fresh shrooms for this recipe?

#25 golly

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 04:52 PM

Yes , it should be easy to go directly to extract with fresh shrooms ..You could put 400g in a blender with a pint and half water , then just go long enough to chop , not liquify..
This way they'll be easier to filter and leave a cleaner product..

That would certainly save the hassle of drying first..I haven't tried with fresh but it should work ...

#26 Lazlo

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 05:56 PM

I don't recommend using fresh mushrooms for anything that is going to be stored for too long. Anything over a day or 2 and the potency is terrible. I guess if you handled it like rocket fuel, then you would be a lot better off. Dry mushrooms are really the way to go with teas, juices and stuff like this more than likely. The problem with fresh fungus is that it oxidizes to damn easy and is vulnerable to heat.

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 07:28 PM

I agree with Lazlo on this one...
I've had it explained before by a knowledgeable chemist before (concerning mainly fresh mushroom honey)

Something bad happens is all I remember, not dangerous but not good. I didn't understand a word. :mistrust:

But IME cracker dry honey, at room temp, in the dark will last for years with no noticeable loss in potency.

I cant say the same for 'fresh mushroom honey' which seems to spoil.

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 08:01 PM

maybe the water content left in the freshies and the easy degrading of magic? Since water extracts the magic so easily, fresh would seem to not hold potency as well in honey as dry fungus.

#29 golly

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 08:51 PM

I agree that a freshie tea will weaken quickly. In this case, your eliminating most of the water content and ending up with an oily essence , which really is no different than when the mush is re-hydrated from it's dried state , then reduced in this honey Tek..

Any tea made from rehydrated mush will also degrade rapidly with time but by reducing and storing in honey , the degradation is clearly halted ..

Truth is, the only way to really know , is to do the experiment..

I just don't see the difference between drying / re-hydrating and using fresh..

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 08:54 PM

I've stored leftover teas in the fridge for a few months and they'd knock you sideways just like the day they were prepared. Preparing with dry mushrooms is the key.

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 09:08 PM

Either way...IMHO. I've done it both ways. I do find that you get rid of a lot of mushie taste when you use dry, which is a plus. My favorite extraction is dry mush + everclear for 24 hrs., then mix w/ cold O.J. and chug. Mmmm....tasty. And it takes the edge off!

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#32 golly

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 09:16 PM

So Laz, are u suggesting that some kind of enzyme is eliminated by the drying process, which may be responsible for the potency loss in "freshie" tea..?

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 09:19 PM

Your guess is a good as mine. I have a theory that once the alkaloids are cured properly, they remain in tact for quite some time.

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 09:59 PM

Your guess is a good as mine. I have a theory that once the alkaloids are cured properly, they remain in tact for quite some time.


I second that theory. :eusa_clap

#35 steeq

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 10:01 PM

So would you all use dry rather than fresh for tea then as well?

#36 Psilly_Engineer

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 10:12 PM

So would you all use dry rather than fresh for tea then as well?

Most definitely I would. My decision being based soley on taste. :headbang:

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 10:12 PM

not necessarily-
it's simple:
freshies are best fresh,
if you plan to drink it
right after making it.

if it ain't fresh, go with dried.

#38 golly

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 10:25 PM

I have another batch comin in, so you just know i'll have to try it out...

#39 steeq

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 10:27 PM

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 10:30 PM

I look forward to hearing the results. Hopefully using fresh would make for a more potent product. Unfortunately not enougn to experiment YET. mmmmmmmm honey :eusa_droo




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