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help needed anyone got a good coir invitro bag recipe?


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#1 gsmith1981

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 02:49 PM

been trying to find a good recipe to do up some texans when they arrive.
im wanting to do 20 or more bags since ive ordered the bags they have sat in the back of the closet.

ive heard to mix coir/malt extract syrup/ calcium carb but at what volumes i dont know cause the tek was never finish. i know the malt extract was for "N" and the calcium carb was for ph.

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 07:20 PM

Here are some links that might be helpful:

Mortho's great tek: good first read for invitro bag growing.
http://mycotopia.net...bag-method.html

Thread about using coir in Mortho's OBIRE tek:
http://mycotopia.net...-bags-coir.html

My guess would be to do a wbs/coir mix substrate in the bags somehow. Might be your best bet at getting nutrient rich mycelium able to fruit more than one flush.

Good luck!

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 07:32 PM

thanks for the info but im searching to make the coir more better for the myc. kinda like hippie's brf super formula

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 07:35 PM

I know Livewire, just don't know of any supercoir formulas used and proven.


That's the main reason I suggested a mix of wbs/coir.

Have you considered Hippie's Supercake Formula, with coir substituting for verm?

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 07:41 PM

actually i was kinda thinking about it. just to see if it might help, but if worst comes to worst ill just mix up a coir/ casting/ 1in chopped straw/verm 1/1/1/1 with 1qt of wbs

especially after i get my wagner steamer going. hey hip what happened to that picture of the wagner strapped to the metal garbage can

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 07:57 PM

Good vibes your way livewire! Hopefully what you try will work out for you. It'll be nice to have a supercoir recipe. :)

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 10:14 AM

what ya'll think of this as a coir recipe

2 blocks of coir placed into a 5gallon bucket,
pour on 2 cups of malt syrup,
1 cup of karo light with vanilla,
2TBSP of calc carb,
4TBSP of USED dry coffee grinds,
3-4quarts of Vermiculite,
this next one: (optional, just started using it, 1qt of wormcasting)

THEN, fill bucket to 2/3rds full of BOILING hot water. place on lid"pasteurize 2hrs".
strain with pillow cases or other method of your choice.
squeeze out to field capacity "few drips continously when squeezed really hard"
i do a 1qt rye grain to 3 qts substrate.



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Posted 14 July 2008 - 01:02 PM

what ya'll think is better

eco earth
coconut fiber
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bed-a-beast
100% coconut husk
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#9 BuckarooBanzai

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 07:42 PM

Coir is better, more like a powder. Husk means bigger pieces and usually lots more long fibers.

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 10:35 PM

I dunno about the coir bricks from the stores I always get mine from my buddy which come in bales...I think 16 bricks of coir is equal to one of the bails...

I would add some poo or castings to the mix and maybe some straw to lighten it up...coir alone with all that syrupy shit I think is gonna make a gooey substrate which wont be very good at all...add some verm to it and some vegetable oil ....I have a recipe if you want it but it has many ingredients in it...

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 10:44 PM

Shoulda posted this earlier. Worm castings and coir...

http://mycotopia.net...allon-jars.html




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