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#1 Santiago

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Posted 22 July 2008 - 03:16 PM

Doing some research on rez effect. I think this might be my best bet.

When I've tried to prepare rye berries in the past, it has ALWAYS led to wetspot. I've had mild success with popcorn, and never tried millet or WBS.

Lazlo's WBS prep tek seems pretty easy - I'm thinking about giving this a shot.

Popcorn seems doable too. However, I know that if space is a concern, the smaller the grain the better, for maximum yield, right?

So prepared WBS, and just fine vermiculite? Will that work? Should I use coir instead? I think I might not quite be getting it, from the Vaults. Maybe I ought to poke around the Archives some too.

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Posted 22 July 2008 - 05:11 PM

Yes

one or the other, or combine together will work fine.

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Posted 22 July 2008 - 05:18 PM

Ok, here's one:

With rez effect, do you always spawn your substrate first, then mix with vermiculite? What about mixing grain and vermiculite, and then inoculating that? Is one way better than the other?

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Posted 22 July 2008 - 06:03 PM

personally, i did a b+ grow and four containers, one cased normal, one with rez effect, and on cased with fifty fifyt and one late cased

the rez effect i liked the best and i think it had the best results

i like sixty forty mix of sixty medium grade verm and forty coco

or just plain coco

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but ive never thought about mixing them,

my crackpot theory is that when you allow the grain or whatever to colonize, its gonna use up all the moisture

now yer gonna take it out and break it up anyways

so why not mix it in then

plus, if you mix the verm in with the wbs or whatever and then colonize it , its still gonna need to be rehydrated with a case, so yer gonna have to do the rez tek or just case it again anyways

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Posted 22 July 2008 - 06:14 PM

nah, with grains I just use grains. If I want to do a mix I do the pf mix.

When I said mix I meant verm/coir or verm/jiffy. I then use that to layer the spawn. Once mine has recovered I do case with jiffy/verm mix. Its not a must nor a need. Hell many dont. It's just what works best for me with the rez style. ;)

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Posted 22 July 2008 - 06:54 PM

if space is a concern, the smaller the grain the better, for maximum yield, right?


eh, not really.
grain size is more relevant in
terms of colonization speed
of the spawn-
smaller grains = more ' points of inoculation ' = more points of growth / per jar/bag of spawn used.
yield , potency, etc.
is not a function of kernel size though.

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Posted 22 July 2008 - 10:08 PM

Oh, I figured that more kernels would equal more mycelial surface area, for bigger yield.

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Posted 22 July 2008 - 10:36 PM

The volume of bulk substrate you colonize with the grain has far more to do with total harvest than the grain.

The ratio of spawn to grain has more effect on the speed of colonization than the size of grain kernel in question.

Smaller grain means more points of innoculation, but smaller grains take faster to colonize fully. Popcorn runs through very quickly and can be spawned at a heavy ratio pretty inexpensively.

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Posted 23 July 2008 - 07:15 AM

So if I have a lot of LC at my disposal, giant bags of popcorn w/ 30 CCs would work pretty well?

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Posted 23 July 2008 - 05:11 PM

you dont want to go over board with lc's ime's.
If you do, the over moistened substrate/grain becomes a
bacteria playground. More is not better imho.

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Posted 23 July 2008 - 06:17 PM

If you use a boatload of LC, you need to do something to balance out the extra moisture.

I have found that a few tablespoons of dry verm lets a spawn bag hold a lot more LC without getting overly wet.

And CM is right - if you get popcorn overly wet (if moisture is pooling on the bottom of the bag) it is a virtual guarantee that it will get a bacterial infection.




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