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#1 iamtheoreo

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 04:28 PM

can oyster fruit directly off wbs and. i have a fully colonized bag of oyster on cardboard ive seen bags with holes cut in them and fruits growing out. how many cuts and how big should they be to achieve this.

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 05:06 PM

yes oysters can fruit off of BRF.
No problem there.
Now if you have oysters in a bag on anything there should be holes in it.
This should be done at spawning.
As long as the plastic is up against whatever sub you have in the bag cut the holes about 2-3" apart. Then a row underneath the on opposite rotation.
Hope I explained that ok, the next row should be in between the above row.
Cuts should be about a 3/4 x 3/4 "X "

Then you're good to go.

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 05:36 PM

what about wild bird seed and here is the bag in question can i jus cut holes now or is it to late and should i try to do something else with it

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 05:56 PM

That's how my woodchips spawn bags turn out.
If you want to fruit them from the bags cut several small x's in the bag in multiple locations.
Raise the humidity to around 95%
And introduce fresh air and light.

The fruits will spring from wherever you cut the holes.

Keep us posted.

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 06:03 PM

Myc are you saying that black shit will fruit?

holes HAVE to be cut at inoculation.

#6 iamtheoreo

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 06:50 PM

if you cut holes at inoculation the bag will contam

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 06:59 PM

haha no it won't.
I grow those as part of our income man.

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 07:09 PM

my bad. nice i didnt realize that oysters were that resistant to contams. so what should i do about the quart of oyster spawn. i dont really have access to a place to pasteurize for a while but i have this fully colonized quart any suggestions im willing to try almost anything

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 07:11 PM

can you try a bleach soak with shredded paper?

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 07:14 PM

how long would i have to soak it for

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 07:27 PM

I'd personally go for a few hour soak. [that means 3 hrs where I'm from]
5% bleach to the water amount.

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 07:36 PM

that sounds like something i can do thanks for the help ill keep everyone updated on my progress

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 08:17 PM

Myc are you saying that black shit will fruit?

holes HAVE to be cut at inoculation.


Maybe I missed something. I didn't see any black stuff?
Mine never turn black.

I take a colonized spawn jar and transfer to sterilized wood shavings in an autoclavable spawn bag.
Seal with an impulse sealer and allow the woodshavings block to colonize. - The only way the culture breathes is through the filter patch.
Upon full colonization, I cut x's in the bag - 5 on each face of the block and two at each end.
Introduce FAE and maintain humidity at 95-99%

http://mycotopia.net...rl-oysters.html

My first run and everything seems fine to me.
Maybe it's my culture?
http://mycotopia.net...-agar-work.html

It seems to fruit in a low O2 environment. Plates were fully colonized and stored @ 40*F. Apparently, these oysters like to grow!

Looking back at those photos........I'm not sure there is a problem. If it smells odd (any other smell than that distinctive fungi odor) I would be concerned. Otherwise, I've noticed that my cultures get a little "dusky" looking. Especially Shiitake.

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 08:31 PM

1st set of pix Myc take a look.
OK You colonize in a filter patch bag.
That is much different than the way I do it.
Sorry for any mix up.
I colonize grain and then spawn that to some pastureized straw.
Then after the bags are loaded cut the holes in them.
This is to assure total colonization and no anerobic activity.
The way you do it is a bit different but alls good.
I like how fast they fruit on straw.
My culture goes from straw to fruiting in about 14 days
peace

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 10:31 PM

I colonize grain and then spawn that to some pastureized straw.
Then after the bags are loaded cut the holes in them.
This is to assure total colonization and no anerobic activity.

My culture goes from straw to fruiting in about 14 days
peace


Can you link me a tek or carefully describe the process?
I would like to compare yeilds, flushes, and all that.
I have a bale of wheat straw and I would like to try your method.

The wood is much slower - about 20 days to colonize - another 10 to fruit - w/ flushes every 10 days. Average yeild is one pound per flush.
The blocks literally shrink up from the moisture loss. They appear as if they are imploding. I'm dunking one right now to see if I can get further flushes.

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 10:43 PM

here's my grow TEK Myc.

http://mycotopia.net...yster-grow.html

this works awesome for me.

Enjoy and critique if needed :bow:

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 11:15 AM

heres how my oyster bag turned out

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 12:20 PM

haha no it won't.
I grow those as part of our income man.


He's talking about the initial inoculation. The seed most certainly will contaminate if there's holes in the bag that contains sterile seed.

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 10:44 PM

Glad to see your project coming along Oreo!

Nice color to those pins. Vivid.
No signs of the "black" stuff which appeared in the original photos.

Keep us posted on your progress.
Try to measure yeilds. I'm interested to know what strait grains can produce.

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 11:57 PM

Oysters need a lot of FAE from what i understand. Did they get bigger than that?




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