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Amanita Muscaria: one seeker's observations [merged]


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#41 Soliver1

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Posted 02 May 2005 - 09:45 AM

I'd love to see some posts about actual amanita experiences that didn't suck,
from the original person doing the mushroom,
pics, methods, etc... there's just so much bad news out there on these things...

If there's a positive mental effect to be had from ingesting them in a particular way, I'd
love to hear it - from someone with first hand knowledge.
I've picked these many times in the past but my couple of bad times have made me not
want to mess. I ate them raw 2x and it wasn't an experience I'd like to repeat,
sort of like eating nutmeg or datura...

Any takers?

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#42 vrooota

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Posted 02 May 2005 - 09:49 AM

uhhhh nutmeg is the worst
gag reflex tryin to tell me something LOL

#43 Soliver1

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Posted 02 May 2005 - 10:17 AM

Just spent some QT on erowid looking at the amanita writeups . . .

Seems most of the bad trips involve megadoses and / or uncooked shrooms.
Some folks cooked and still had a bad time -
there isn't a solid connection I can see, no vague agreement on what is a good way
to go about consuming these things.

One dude said that he felt "shooting pains like someone pushing hundreds of needles
into my dick - no one here on erowid ever mentioned that . . . "

Yowch . . .

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Posted 02 May 2005 - 11:41 AM

Even when prepared properly there is no guarentee that the trip will be a good one. These are not psillys, the intent is not to get into a laughing state. It's a spiritual trip and you have to be in the right frame of mind and even then there is very real possibility of having a lousy trip. Everybodies body reacts differently and every mushroom is of undetermined potency. To many variables to ever predict correctly.

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Posted 02 May 2005 - 02:00 PM

I tried the amanita extract from iamshaman.
I had a slight trippy buzz, colors were
brighter and I felt happier and relaxed.

Probably lasted 4 to 6 hours, not sure.
Made me real tired - couldn't get off the couch.
Not that great.

I've tried nutmeg before too.
It's nasty, not recommended!
It WILL make you trip, if you eat enough.

I ate a whole bottle and tripped for
like 2 days, no shit. And a hangover
after that - from the nutmeg.
My eyes turned yellow,
I'm guessing some kind of poisoning.

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Posted 02 May 2005 - 04:00 PM

The 'experts' at Telluride recommended 1/2 dry gram of Amanita with your normal cubie dose for best results without getting sick. They seem to be a bit too toxic for most of us to handle much more than that.
RR

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 12:21 AM

I remember doing these with some native american friends out west and the taste was just about as harsh as peyote, and the buzz left much to be desired as far as being fun,definately for a purpose naot for play. Those guys did something to prepare them buy heating over a fire upside down, the cap filled with a liquid that was then poured off and each of us took a teaspoonful. Nasty tasting but it does work. I'm not sure that I would feel confident enough to try this on my own without the shaman there to do iprepare it right, [ misinformation removed]

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 06:17 AM

Some amanitas will straight up kill you,
but not the kind we're talking about.
Still, not much reason to fuck with them.

Psilly shrooms are better, safer,
and they have their own shaman
magic history. IMO

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 11:10 AM

Actually I believe amanita's have a much longer history of use than cubs and I don't see where 1/2 gram dried will do anything at all. Usually several grams dried are needed for a mild trip. If you mix 1/2 gram with regular cub dose you're going to have a cub trip, not an amanita trip. Experts shcmexperts....lol!

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 01:47 PM

<snip>as these mushrooms are highly poisonous and not meant to be ingested straight, these mushrooms taken in the wrong way will kill you. Other names are fly agaric, death angel and you get the picture hopefully.



That is straight up misinformation, there ISN'T a "Death Angel" mushroom, there are "Destroying Angels", which are a solid white mushroom, and "Death Caps", which are a tan/yellow/light brown sort of color, generaly. Both of them (destroying angels and death caps) will destroy your liver in short order, leading to a highly unpleasant death. They are generaly potent enough to kill you for eating a single mushroom or less, not something to mess around with.

Nowhere have i found even a reference to someone dying from muscarias, they aren't toxic in that sense.
Highly unpleasant, you bet, but they won't kill you.

#51 Soliver1

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 02:00 PM

Destroying angels will kill you for sure, especially as one is led to believe that the
poison has run it's course and then a couple days later your liver and kidneys shut down.
They are related to muscaria, but I've never heard of anyone dying from eating an
amanita.

You may WISH you were dead, what with the penis needles and all, but they're not
recorded as being lethal.

:)

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 12:44 AM

amantia trips are not all that great. the visuals are mostly vision type insted of colors and stuff morphing, if you get any visuals at all, which most dont. prepair for the swets, and the chills. when i took some, my hair felt really uncomfortable and i spent the night debating weither to shave my head. its not at all a copairable trip to your standard magic mushroom.

#53 Hippie3

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 05:03 AM

the general consensus from even the hardcore oldtimers
is that damn few people ever do amanitas more than once.
the few who talk positively about amanitas
have often never actually done any.

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 07:38 AM

"Experts shcmexperts....lol!"

It was James Arthur who said to mix 1/2 gram of Amanita with a regular cube dose. I wouldn't know. I hate puking.
RR

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 08:05 AM

mr. arthur may just want more folks to eat amanitas
since they are of course his main focus in his writings
so maybe he figured that piggy-backing a below-threshold dose
of amanitas onto real psillis would increase their popularity
as folks confuse the effects of the one for the other.

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 08:49 AM

Amanita's are a HUGE family that contains mushrooms that are both deadly and gourmet. Amanita muscaria are neither although they actually do smell quite nice and I know a guy who ate some with gypsys in Hungary. Nobody got high or sick off them because they were eaten as part of a large feast. If you want to get high then of course you would do it on an empty stomach. As some have mentioned, the juice which forms when drying is also good to drink.

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Posted 26 April 2005 - 04:41 AM

some pix from our DVD-

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#58 Hippie3

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Posted 26 April 2005 - 04:43 AM

see http://www.jamesarth...shroom_new.html

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#59 candykid420

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Posted 26 April 2005 - 11:30 AM

fucking beautiful.

#60 Hippie3

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Posted 26 April 2005 - 03:56 PM

they sure are.
a pity they make me drool like a fool.




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