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Panaeolus versus cubies ? Potency? [merged]


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#1 711

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 05:22 PM

I know they have magic, but could a seasoned vet sum up the strains and their potencies (in comparison to cubies). Any trip experience's would help also. How does it compare? Thanks All

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 06:20 PM

I suppose if you want an accurate answer you should specify the species of Panaeolus that you are interested in, as many species reportedly have little to no psilocybin, such as foenescii and subbalteatus, though others such as cambodigensis, tropicalis, and cyanescens are known to be strong enough to be cultivated.

I have eaten the foenescii and subbalteatus that I've found in my lawn and while the experience was interesting, I'm sticking to cubies.

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 06:23 PM

cyans are like a limousine &
cubs are like a taxi cab

They'll both get you where you need to go,
it's just a matter of how you like to ride. ;)

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 09:44 PM

cyans are like a limousine &
cubs are like a taxi cab

They'll both get you where you need to go,
it's just a matter of how you like to ride. ;)


Well Said.

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Posted 15 October 2005 - 09:37 AM

thanks guys.

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Posted 25 August 2006 - 03:46 AM

I'm almost positve this has been disscused before but, I'm wondering, as I've only ever grown cubies before, what is the difference (i.e. growing/incubating temps, Rh etc) and, more importantly, my main question is which is stronger?

I wanna try cyans but have to be persuaded as I don't - yet - see the point when cubies are such a winning formula as in if it's not broke don't fix it/stick with a winner etc. but I'm up for a new challenge all the same.

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Posted 25 August 2006 - 06:28 AM

Look up some Pan teks in the archives for growing specifics. Waylitjim has a great Pan cake tek in there that I am going to try when I get motivated. In terms of potency, most peeps will tell you that Pans are about 3 times (roughly) as strong as Cubies--kinda scary, huh?
The bottom line is that Pans are a bit harder to cultivate, but they are surely worth the effort. Peace.

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Posted 25 August 2006 - 08:18 AM

pans are a great shroom. not a whole lot harder to grow from my experiences, but well worth it. just buy a syringe from one are sponsors and give it a shot, and even if you fail (which you wont if you follow waylitjim's tek) you got your cubes to fall back on.

here is his tek:
http://mycotopia.net...read.php?t=6488

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Posted 25 August 2006 - 08:25 AM

The temp and humidity parameters are essentially the same. Fresh air is more important for cyans and they really need a casing layer to fruit well. It is definitely worth the little bit of extra effort. They are about 3 times stronger than cubes.

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Posted 25 August 2006 - 08:32 AM

here is a good link. http://mycotopia.net...read.php?t=5039

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Posted 25 August 2006 - 09:55 AM

You talking Pan. cyanescens or Ps. cyanescens? The Ps. are a lot stronger and much more difficult to grow. They are woodlovers and require a different tek, usually done outdoors.

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Posted 25 August 2006 - 10:14 AM

pan cyans are what they all are talking about, dung lover,
quite similar growth parameters with cubies.

psilocybe cyanescens far different, radically so.
woodlover, as max mentions.
for info on ps. cyan-
http://archives.myco...s/5/132081.html

http://archives.myco...html?1007739985

http://mycotopia.net...cybe cyanescens

http://mycotopia.net...06&d=1132298989

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Posted 25 August 2006 - 10:59 AM

Yes,..Pans are 3 times stronger,but they give a different 'high' too !

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Posted 25 August 2006 - 12:46 PM

I wanna try cyans but have to be persuaded as I don't - yet - see the point when cubies are such a winning formula.


Scotia, for me cyans were part of my evolution as a cultivator. I have a fascination with all mushrooms, especially Psilocybes. After spending some time with cubensis, I wanted to study exotics. I was intrigued by them and viewed cultivating a personal challenge. Sure everyone says they're difficult, but that's whay mycology is all about. I enjoy the process (learning) as much as the end result. (mushrooms)


Ps. cyans are a lot stronger and much more difficult to grow.


Imo, Wood lovers are not very hard. If you have some patience and the correct outdoor weather, they're actually quite easy. About the same as growing cubensis outdoors. Mother Nature does all the work for you.

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Posted 25 August 2006 - 03:25 PM


http://mycotopia.net...06&d=1132298989


drooooooool! :amazed:

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Posted 27 September 2006 - 05:46 AM

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Posted 27 September 2006 - 08:15 AM

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Posted 27 September 2006 - 09:12 AM

There's definately something different happening with a Pan cyan trip..Many
Panaeolus contain Seretonin and Urea which are not found in cubes..This could certainly explain the more euphoric sense of well being and more energetic experience...Somehow these chemicals combine to produce a very visual and enjoyable ride...Often - strong waves of perception roll thru your mind followed by relative calm....The word "exquisite" comes to mind.
The only negative for me is the come down as CEV's of wild proportions linger on ,when all ya wanna do is sleep..So i usually take a lil helper like Tylenol pm or sumit.....

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Posted 27 September 2006 - 10:01 AM

The only negative for me is the come down as CEV's of wild proportions linger on.....


The only negative for me is... those damned superheroes won't go away!!!

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Posted 27 September 2006 - 10:07 AM

hahahaha

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