First time spawned to coir
Posted 24 September 2008 - 02:22 PM
I put 5 BRF cakes through a cheese grater and spawned it to about 8-9 jars of coir that I soaked in hot water for 30 minutes. The ratio isn't quite 1:1 as I hoped as I got abit carried away with the amount of coir I had left over from half a brick (didn't realize how much it would expand). After the coir was soaked a rinsed it with lots of water as I read reptile coir contains minerial, salts and/or chemicals that interferes with mycelium growth.
After the two were added I mixed very well and placed the mixture in the tub I will be using and lightly flattened down as again I read that cubes like a more compact substrate, I didn't press hard, just so it was nice and flat and not so fluffy and full of air pockets. The total depth is about 1.5 / 2 inches deep and is wt enough so that when it is squeezed you may get a few drops of water drip at most.
After all this I have put the tub/ washing up bowl in a black bag and squeezed most of the air out as this promotes growth I think because the mycelium grows looking for oxygen. This is where it will stay untill it's fully colognized and ready for the FC.
How long will it take to colognize you think and does it 100% have to be colognized so the surface is completely white and fluffy ?
Many thanks and sorry for the long post.
Opinions and advice appreciated :bow:
Posted 25 September 2008 - 02:33 PM
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Posted 25 September 2008 - 03:03 PM
I never thought about putting it in a trashbag to colo. Just always put back in incubation chamber. Keep posting and let us know how well that works out.
Sorry the posts are so spread out. At work and customers keep interrupting me, you would think they know someone is busy with his hobby Jeesh!:amazed:
Posted 26 September 2008 - 09:54 AM
What should the surface look like when it's ready to be placed in the FC or cased ??? At the moment I can still see uncolognized coir but still lots of myc growth. Looks about 70-80% white so far.
Posted 26 September 2008 - 12:28 PM
Posted 27 September 2008 - 06:45 AM
Don't want to do the late case tek as from what I have read it a little un-reliable. I plan to use 40/60 coir verm but when should I case ? The surface is completely white now, no knots just fuffy white myc, I plan to expose to light today or tomorrow.
I want to really use just straight verm but is there a massive difference in flushes/yeild/pin set compared to 40/60 ?
Posted 27 September 2008 - 07:46 AM
Also, I've used coir in the past, but never rinsed it, just hydrated it and pasteurized. I've never had any problems with colonization. My guess is you could omit that step.
Also, you'll need some fresh air. Stagnant air can cause contams and little FAE can slow down growth. You won't need 2-3x a day FAE until you are ready to fruit. But some is required.
Posted 27 September 2008 - 08:10 AM
No didn't pasteurize the coir just let it sit in boiling water from the kettle for 30min to allow to cool. I only rinsed it just because I heard reptile coir contained some salts and such that could eefect growth.
I got the tub in a black rubbish bag and I air it out once a day, was going to leave it 3-4 days with no air but realized it could cause contams so ...
It's colognized fine so far but when so you think I should add a casing to the top surface and how deep ? Verm or 40/60 coir/verm and whats the difference ?
Posted 27 September 2008 - 10:29 AM
Case them about 1/2" deep or so, not much more or you will have problems with pinning IMO. Also start exposing them to light and put them in the fruiting chamber real soon if the top is good and fluffy white.(after you case them.)
Hope that all makes sense. I been a little too much this morning me thinks!
Posted 27 September 2008 - 10:33 AM
Watch for drying (it changes color a bit) and mist if needed.
Posted 27 September 2008 - 12:12 PM
Posted 27 September 2008 - 12:29 PM
Heres some crappy pics, hard to see whats going on but I don't think I will case now that Dr T said and you goldenteacher1163. Comming along quite well I think :D
Posted 27 September 2008 - 01:26 PM
Pop it in the FC, or start fanning it.
Or whatever you plan to do. Just do it!
Posted 27 September 2008 - 08:25 PM
Posted 28 September 2008 - 06:44 AM
Im using a TiT set up, do you think I should turn my heater on ? With it on it get very humid inside to the point where drops of water drip from the lid, im guessing 95-98 humidity or will this do better at lower humidity levels ?
Posted 28 September 2008 - 07:04 AM